Not just him, this has been a long running narrative especially with old heads that since he ain't drop a solo he can be considered top 5
People used to hype up jay electronica like crazy and oldheads had to tell them the same thing (back before hov rapped circles around him for a whole album)
I respect your list but having Common above OutKast is nasty lmao
Again...it's almost like people have different lists and don't d***ride Andre 3000.
I'm guessing this must be wild concept you are now discovering.
I think it’s all relative
For me his resume and catalogue makes him an all timer
BUT
His lack of prolificness cannot be ignored and it does knock him down a few notches given how much his competition plays ball these days
it only knocks him down temporarily imo
all it takes is one kendrick album to erase all this talk
Kendrick isn’t top 5 of his generation. Yes, he makes great albums but so does his competition, and they play FAR more games than he does. Plus the real top 5 have a great legacy in the actual hiphop community. Kendrick doesn’t have much of any sons in the game right now.
Edit: I know the ratio is coming lol
Like I’m not sure how Kendrick can keep his standing when guys like Cole and Drake are dropping consistently
This is a new era, this is the climate that we’re in and if you’re not playing ball then that is a knock against you I feel
We criticize CLB, off season, their features etc but that’s the risk those guys take because they’re playing ball they’re playing for history they aren’t resting on their past victories.
Again...it's almost like people have different lists and don't d***ride Andre 3000.
I'm guessing this must be wild concept you are now discovering.
why you tight?
Ktt is like tv with the same shows but each is just a little different than the last
Andre only top 5 cus he’s eccentric.
In reality how you gon separate him from big boi, what makes him less deserving? At least he got a solo classic. Can’t say the same for 3k (inb4 some nigga posts the live below)
Makes no sense. Do I agree he takes way too long? Yes of course, especially if the result is something only of DAMN quality. But, when you're talking about the greatest musicians you don't talk about the quantity of their work, you talk about the quality. By your logic Lil B s***s on Jay cause he's been putting out way more albums.
That logic doesn't apply lol. My criticism of Kendrick is that he doesn't NEED 5 years to craft a great project. He's proven that multiple times.
Also, Jay went on an 13-album/9 year run already. He's solidified in that.
Kendrick isn’t top 5 of his generation. Yes, he makes great albums but so does his competition, and they play FAR more games than he does. Plus the real top 5 have a great legacy in the actual hiphop community. Kendrick doesn’t have much of any sons in the game right now.
Edit: I know the ratio is coming lol
Name 5 niggas ahead of him
Kendrick isn’t top 5 of his generation. Yes, he makes great albums but so does his competition, and they play FAR more games than he does. Plus the real top 5 have a great legacy in the actual hiphop community. Kendrick doesn’t have much of any sons in the game right now.
Edit: I know the ratio is coming lol
Its not hard to think about s*** before you type it
Andre only top 5 cus he’s eccentric.
In reality how you gon separate him from big boi, what makes him less deserving? At least he got a solo classic. Can’t say the same for 3k (inb4 some nigga posts the live below)
I like what another poster said: he top 5 in skill. not solo discog wise
Why are we talking bout art like sports
Because apparently ktt is supposed to be a vacuum for pointless stan discussion and repetitive debates over the same people.
Link them rn
It has almost always been
Hov
Nas
Big
Pac
Snoop/em/wayne/50 for yearss
3k being fifth on that list is a rarity and u know this
Lol Google works bro. Literally type in Andre 3k GOAT and s*** pops up.
Eminem
Drake
Lil Wayne
Jay z etc have all named Andre.
it only knocks him down temporarily imo
all it takes is one kendrick album to erase all this talk
He has to do more than 1 album for me IMO
EYE think drake and Cole are top tier rappers who in addition to their albums, are on compilations, mixtapes, ep’s, they are doing their s***
That has to matter. If your competition is out here like that, it has to matter
Kendrick isn’t top 5 of his generation. Yes, he makes great albums but so does his competition, and they play FAR more games than he does. Plus the real top 5 have a great legacy in the actual hiphop community. Kendrick doesn’t have much of any sons in the game right now.
Edit: I know the ratio is coming lol
having sons a bad thing in terms of being a testament to the quality of your music
Like I’m not sure how Kendrick can keep his standing when guys like Cole and Drake are dropping consistently
This is a new era, this is the climate that we’re in and if you’re not playing ball then that is a knock against you I feel
We criticize CLB, off season, their features etc but that’s the risk those guys take because they’re playing ball they’re playing for history they aren’t resting on their past victories.
Well said.
Non-Kendrick fans mad as hell Kendrick don't release enough music. Can't make this s*** up...
Like racial tension is damn near an every year thing now in this day and age. And Black artists been making Black music about such times for...shit way longer before these "racial tensions in the social media age" Are all these Black artists now making critic bait music? Was Marvin Gaye making "critic bait" music?
You motherfuckers are f***ing stupid man I hate y'all.
They’re white