darklex150

1y

Last year I remember talking with a co worker about music, he was really into it, specially mainstream hiphop and pop music. Suddenly another female coworker joined the conversation and said Sabrina Carpenter was her fav and a huge star. This dude started talking down on her stating she had no real hits or classic albums. I agreed with him since I barely heard her name before.

One year later and I see her everywhere now, and I mean, she aint that bad, she does have talen but her rise to super stardom seems so fabricated to me.

Like, wtf happened? , it feels like a plant to me but I also see that ladies legit like her. So, how she got to that position so soon? I dont recap any viral video, hit song or something related to her. Also, I barely see people talk about her in real life but online its another story.

imShy

1y

People always ask this question.."how did x getting so big"

the answer is always

X's label is pumping money into the industry to prop up their artist. That's all it is. After a artist gets a smidge of buzz their label will correctly do their job by spending millions to prop up their artist (get them on shows, concerts, in front of playlists, etc)

It's up to the artist then to seize the moment but they then have all the momentum.

This "plant" thing has to die. It's literally the job of the major label to have their artist blow inorganically. Everything is marketing, everyone is marketed.

I mean what's the alternative, you want a artist to slave in the underground for 2 decades doing college shows? Or do you want their major label to spend money and market them like they're supposed to do.

vingu

1y

she was a convenient choice. you're witnessing the last throes of the monoculture industry as it collapses and so you'll see them pluck every white disney b**** from irrelevancy to stave off their doom

Botney

1y

that one song was actually global and played everywhere my friend.

imShy

1y

People always ask this question.."how did x getting so big"

the answer is always

X's label is pumping money into the industry to prop up their artist. That's all it is. After a artist gets a smidge of buzz their label will correctly do their job by spending millions to prop up their artist (get them on shows, concerts, in front of playlists, etc)

It's up to the artist then to seize the moment but they then have all the momentum.

This "plant" thing has to die. It's literally the job of the major label to have their artist blow inorganically. Everything is marketing, everyone is marketed.

I mean what's the alternative, you want a artist to slave in the underground for 2 decades doing college shows? Or do you want their major label to spend money and market them like they're supposed to do.

darklex150

1y

Not in my city or cities around. Not global

Botney

1y

lies

Botney

1y

lies

Botney

1y

lies

kami

1y

being a Disney product literally has not helped Sabrina's career at all?

she released like 4 flop albums before breaking through which happened from plain luck imo being involved with the Olivia Rodrigo drama (maybe there were some label shenanigans going on to boost both of them up idk)

anyway my point is that the Disney stimulus doesn't really exist in the streaming era

Botney

1y

75% of Prince discography is mediocre lmao

deleteduser579

1y

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not really, no

that’s more Michael Jackson who gets a pass for having roughly a 2 hot album run

wasn’t longer than Stevie’s, Bowie’s or even Jimi’s run of albums and y’all the ones that worship “perfect” discographies on here

just goes to show people rank based off of aura more than the actual music

deleteduser579

1y

· edited

not really, no

that’s more Michael Jackson who gets a pass for having roughly a 2 hot album run

wasn’t longer than Stevie’s, Bowie’s or even Jimi’s run of albums and y’all the ones that worship “perfect” discographies on here

just goes to show people rank based off of aura more than the actual music

KingOfPop

1y

Christmas eve and you're using it to be bitter about MJ
Rent free​

deleteduser579

1y

Happy Christmas Eve, KingOfPop.

darklex150

1y

While your answer shares some truths, it deflects the fact that sometimes its an elaborated illusion making it seem bigger than it actually its, like in this case.

Like, she aint Britney with toxic, Katy with kissed the girl, hell, even Billie Elish had some pretty huge organic hits.

I understand the purpose of marketing, and faking streams and influence on the internet is not it.

darklex150

1y

Why you think I made this thread dumb ass?

It was based off internet perception, not real life perception. Online she is treated like the next big thing.

In real life only that lady was hyping her, nobody else knows her. But even my grandma knows Katy or Britney (my 15 y/o sister knows them too).

Never heard a song of hers until I looked her up intentionally. I cant even tell how her voice sounds like. And I have never heard not even once a song in the streets, clubs, cafes,etc. Not even radio.

imShy

1y

I don't know what you mean by illusion to make her seem bigger than she actually is. She has 89 thousand monthly spotify listeners.

She's exactly as big as she is perceived to be.

Yes that's all by design by the record labels.

I don't get why people have this thing with "organic" anything in a billion dollar industry. Nothing in pop is organic, there's billions of dollars behind everything whether you can see it or not. This is literally what it means to "break" a artist in the industry, and it's happened with all the names you dropped in the reply. Obviously it's a marriage between talent + money.

The only thing is that once a artist establishes themselves as a superstar, the label doesn't need to funnel as much resources as they needed to "break" them in the beginning.

That's to your Billie point. She's already established herself as a superstar with a massive fan base so she can put something out tomorrow with no promo and it'll crush. That'll be "organic" based on how you view it. But breaking in a new artist is not organic at all. And there's nothing wrong with that that's just how the music industry works.

darklex150

1y

Well, At least Doechii is rapping her ass off and there is not much potential female rappers out there.

Meanwhile, Sabrina sounds like T Swift 3.0 with the old school madonna look.