Do you really think Vanilla Ice would be anything close to Eminem?

they were both great white hopes that whites supported because they were white. that's the commonality even em acknowledged

wtf this got to do with anything

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I guess back then ppl were rlly craving the "rape my mom" typa lyrical content

dr. dre push + conservative media labeling him and manson as satan reincarnated which led to teenagers buying his s*** in droves. MTV helped a lot as well. those are the big ones I can think of. also he's white and a lot of white people who never listened to rap music checked him out ig.

oh f*** you're right

Nice strawman argument you're trying to build there

I said it was jus something to think about

lot of it is because he has relatable messaging, skilled, accessible, marketable and is tupac-esque

you're lying if you say he got that far exclusively because he's white
and you're lying if you say he didn't benefit tremendously from skin color (he's admitted to this himself)

Agreed. Em's skill level is undeniable. Don't mistake my pointing out his skin color for downplaying his emceeing

white

There's nothing casual about eminem's racist fans

It's damn near by design the way he reeled that reactionary fanbase in with his mysogynist, narcissistic, ignorant "content"

relatable messaging

Shut up s***, you're causin' too much chaos
Just bend over and take it like a s***, okay Ma!?

relatable messaging

relatable messaging

well when you get fanbase that big and you make that type of music your obviously going to bring in problematic fanbase

still without good label backing and a lot people embracing him he wouldn't never gotten to point he was at this peak and for sure wouldn't be at position he is now

i also agree that him being white benefited his career, i always agree with any white artist going to genre which predominantly black is going to benefit

lose yourself, rock bottom, cleaning out my closet, marshall mathers, the way I am, sftm etc.

but that shock lyric s*** was a 2000s zeitgeist too I won't pretend that s*** didn't propel him

obvious satire

working & middle class white america

he used to be great at making wordy rap satisfying, he doesn't get enough credit for how catchy he made s***

Manlets RISE UP