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  • Feb 22, 2021
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    hot pancakes

    everyone was dissing mj back in the day

    This doesn’t make it right.

    The best thing for me, with Eminem’s 2004 diss, “Just Lose It” is that even by that point, people were tired of his try-hard edginess.

    It also led to one of my favourite ever sentences written by a critic -
    David Browne of Entertainment Weekly; "First on the album came the sarcastically bouncy "Just Lose It", a lazy retread of earlier hits that, with its easy-target references to Michael Jackson, made Eminem appear to be the one who'd actually lost it."

    And, of course as Michael himself said in his interview with Geraldo, “I’ve never attacked a fellow artist, great artists don’t do that” - youtu.be/rKE1Sc0wPLE

    Finally topping it all off, in 2007 MJ bought Famous Music, so owned all the rights to Eminem’s music meaning anytime anyone played that try hard edgy diss, it lined Michael’s pocket.

    If you come for the king, you better not miss.

  • Feb 22, 2021
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    Danhust

    Then you didn't search much. He's been trashing Kelly since forever. It's Em, he loves pissing jokes.

    Everybody made fun of MJ look, he was the male version of Lil Kim. His musix was dope, but he f***ed his whole face up.

    This is a lie, and just proof that the media will make you believe anything.

    He had vitiligo and discoid lupus. Look at this and tell me he “fucked his whole face up” as you so put it;

    instagram.com/p/CLeQcrTDWqZ/?igshid=1n8qk9ylkcj6v

  • Feb 22, 2021

    Same way kendrick blew up. Being the best rapper out at the time and having Dr. Dre support

  • Feb 22, 2021
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    ^^^^^^

    I like Em but you don't go Plat being "the best rapper out". Otherwise, Jadakiss, Mos Def, and Earl Sweatshirt would be going multi-plat. And Kendrick still being in Drake's shadow is proof of that .

    It had to do with being skilled and, more importantly, being marketable.

    Jadakiss can murder anyone on a track and write decent bars/puns but Tom and Sarah from Kansas ain't gonna relate to Jada's street bars with heavy NY slang like they would "The Real Slim Shady" which poked fun at pop culture like South Park did.

    Keep in mind too that Nelly was the 2nd biggest rapper in the early 2000's after Em and they even had a "cold war" with each other...lol. And Nelly is one of the least skilled rappers to ever blow up.

    But Nelly's hooks, good looks(pause), and club bangers made him more accessible to suburbanites with purchasing power like Eminem did.

    It's all supply and demand. Eminem is a skilled rapper, marketable, has a good sense of melody, has a Dre co-sign, used controversy to keep him in the news, and had a decent movie that he starred in. Nothing more. Nothing less.

  • Feb 22, 2021

    OP was born in 2005

  • Feb 22, 2021
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    eminem was a cultural phenomena in the early 2000s. it was insane how popular he was.

    the dre affiliation played a role in him being accepted by some hardcore fans, then he had the casual audience that gravitated to him because he was a white rapper that really exploded. not too hard to figure out. he had casual fans that prob only listened to pop radio end up becoming big time fans of his.

  • Feb 22, 2021

    being white

  • Feb 22, 2021
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    a lot of white people in the world

  • Feb 22, 2021

    white

  • Feb 22, 2021
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    Dre co-sign, Up In Smoke Tour, Praise by many rappers, and dope music.
    Whole package

    8 mile, signing 50 Cent, beefs, MTV

  • Feb 22, 2021
    KingOfPop

    This doesn’t make it right.

    The best thing for me, with Eminem’s 2004 diss, “Just Lose It” is that even by that point, people were tired of his try-hard edginess.

    It also led to one of my favourite ever sentences written by a critic -
    David Browne of Entertainment Weekly; "First on the album came the sarcastically bouncy "Just Lose It", a lazy retread of earlier hits that, with its easy-target references to Michael Jackson, made Eminem appear to be the one who'd actually lost it."

    And, of course as Michael himself said in his interview with Geraldo, “I’ve never attacked a fellow artist, great artists don’t do that” - https://youtu.be/rKE1Sc0wPLE

    Finally topping it all off, in 2007 MJ bought Famous Music, so owned all the rights to Eminem’s music meaning anytime anyone played that try hard edgy diss, it lined Michael’s pocket.

    If you come for the king, you better not miss.

    Bruh dissing Michael Jackson in the 2000’s was like Tik tok trends, every comedian and show poked fun at him. Even bars in rap

  • Feb 22, 2021

    White people

  • Feb 22, 2021
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    if all it took was being an edgy white guy, you have to ask yourself why nobody thought of it before ?

    or why it hasn't been done to that level of success ever since ?

    idk why people skate around the fact that being a great rapper had as much to do with it as just skin color

  • Feb 22, 2021
    rip armani x

    if all it took was being an edgy white guy, you have to ask yourself why nobody thought of it before ?

    or why it hasn't been done to that level of success ever since ?

    idk why people skate around the fact that being a great rapper had as much to do with it as just skin color

    Em threads always turn into blind hate lol

  • Feb 22, 2021

    He is white.

  • Feb 22, 2021

    Eminem put on 50 cent that’s goated in itself

  • Feb 22, 2021

    even with all the marketing hype in the world and the cosigns, eminem still wouldn't have made it past 2000 if his music was actually trash

    he would have went out like lil pump or tekashi

  • Feb 22, 2021
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    Senor Alejandro

    you know why op. same reason vanilla ice did

    Where tf is vanilla ice now and he definitely didn't even sold near to em lmao 🤦‍♂️
    today's popular white artists couldn't cross 600K .

  • Feb 22, 2021

    his competition was limp bizkit

  • Feb 22, 2021

    Dre resources.

  • Feb 22, 2021
    Weekend KaTeezy

    'hi kids, do you like violence? want to see me stick these nine inch nails through each one of my eyelids?'

    this is how. it was a wrap after this bar

    Foreal

  • Feb 22, 2021
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    Almost as if Eminem was legendary in his prime or something.

    Don’t expect internet nerds born after 2000, such as yourself, to understand.

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    Kendrik lama

    Where tf is vanilla ice now and he definitely didn't even sold near to em lmao 🤦‍♂️
    today's popular white artists couldn't cross 600K .

    he got replaced by marky mark, got extorted by suge knight, and stopped making music The fact that he was able to become the number one rapper off the strength of simply being white despite being a mediocre dancer and rapper only serves to prove my point

  • Feb 22, 2021

    getting touched with a ten foot pole

  • Feb 22, 2021
    Giordano

    Almost as if Eminem was legendary in his prime or something.

    Don’t expect internet nerds born after 2000, such as yourself, to understand.

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