allmygirlsdoyoga

11mo

It’s so insane to see how Kanye sacrificed his career to say all of these things publicly, got cancelled, and then we find out that he wasn’t necessarily wrong

AvenueJones

11mo

“Ahead of my time, sometimes years out
So the powers that be won't let me get my ideas out”

allmygirlsdoyoga

11mo

This nigga Aubrey is a f***ing slave master. This is crazy

Brendasdeadbaby

11mo

This is some pretty good research @op I think you should keep digging, it feels like just the tip of the iceberg.

I wanna disagree with your conclusion tho as far as what it all means and how it relates to the beef.

I dont think drake is getting money off these artists directly. On the gamma side I guess it could conceivably be structured so that on paper he's pulling in a cut off of specific artists. On the UMG side, a public company with millions of investors and tons of artists all with varying contracts, I don't see a minority investor going in picking and choosing which artists to pull profit from. It just doesn't work like that. Although you do have some good evidence that drake and others have been hinting at him having ownership. He may have just been buying up people's masters outright over the years. Might not be related to the record deal at all.

I do believe what you have stumbled upon is the classic music industry plant machine. And that drake, long suspected of being a plant, is now doing the planting. I dont even want to get into the morality of ghostwriting in hip hop or whether it matters these days. Whether you want the artistry or just a good song is besides the point I'm making here. What I will say is that in doing what drake is doing, pulling talent and inspiration from all the various, little known corners of black music. He's funneling or concentrating all the talent from black culture into one figurehead of power. Of industry power, hitmaking and marketing power, and ultimately planting power. Sucking up all the juice.

Drake just trolled the entire industry with this sexy red minstrel show like he's king midas with this plant machine. And make no mistake, that was a troll. Also, every other drake bar is now about how great he is and how far beneath him everyone else is when behind the scenes all these guys know he isn't actually creating much if any of this content himself. I think this is where the disdain and animosity is coming from with all these other artists.

I think he thought he could expect people like future or metro to contribute to the sexy red rollout and they saw it for what it was and declined. Then he starts sneak dissing and going after the women lol.

I think kendrick probably saw through this charade a long time ago whereas other artist were willing to overlook it all to get the bag. And I mean it's not like anyone could really do anything anyway, artists have never been able to go against the machine.

I'm not entirely convinced at this point that Ross isn't just controlled opposition. Kinda burning up all the ammo and helping guide the narrative. It would seem whatevers about to play out has been carefully crafted, seems more like a plan playing out than a personal beef that finally boiled over. But what do I know.

And ya know, part of me looks at all this and says it's just business as usual in the music industry, whatever. But part of me senses the parody of what drakes been doing, particularly with sexy red. It has this air of mockery, of they're laughing at us. Minstrel shows were/are really a thing. But maybe I'm tripping.

Bigger picture, what is happening right now is a battle between creative artistry stemming from lived human experience and cookie-cutter, formulaic, algorithmic "good songs". They are warming consumers up to the idea that it doesn't really matter where the lyrics come from as long as it sounds good. That the figurehead, the output of the content is more important than the source of the content. Which will transition well into the AI musicians we will eventually be listening to. Why do you think corporations have been buying up all these old masters across all generes? They are training AI on all that data as we speak. I feel like music as we known it is on the brink of change.

Brendasdeadbaby

11mo

This is some pretty good research @op I think you should keep digging, it feels like just the tip of the iceberg.

I wanna disagree with your conclusion tho as far as what it all means and how it relates to the beef.

I dont think drake is getting money off these artists directly. On the gamma side I guess it could conceivably be structured so that on paper he's pulling in a cut off of specific artists. On the UMG side, a public company with millions of investors and tons of artists all with varying contracts, I don't see a minority investor going in picking and choosing which artists to pull profit from. It just doesn't work like that. Although you do have some good evidence that drake and others have been hinting at him having ownership. He may have just been buying up people's masters outright over the years. Might not be related to the record deal at all.

I do believe what you have stumbled upon is the classic music industry plant machine. And that drake, long suspected of being a plant, is now doing the planting. I dont even want to get into the morality of ghostwriting in hip hop or whether it matters these days. Whether you want the artistry or just a good song is besides the point I'm making here. What I will say is that in doing what drake is doing, pulling talent and inspiration from all the various, little known corners of black music. He's funneling or concentrating all the talent from black culture into one figurehead of power. Of industry power, hitmaking and marketing power, and ultimately planting power. Sucking up all the juice.

Drake just trolled the entire industry with this sexy red minstrel show like he's king midas with this plant machine. And make no mistake, that was a troll. Also, every other drake bar is now about how great he is and how far beneath him everyone else is when behind the scenes all these guys know he isn't actually creating much if any of this content himself. I think this is where the disdain and animosity is coming from with all these other artists.

I think he thought he could expect people like future or metro to contribute to the sexy red rollout and they saw it for what it was and declined. Then he starts sneak dissing and going after the women lol.

I think kendrick probably saw through this charade a long time ago whereas other artist were willing to overlook it all to get the bag. And I mean it's not like anyone could really do anything anyway, artists have never been able to go against the machine.

I'm not entirely convinced at this point that Ross isn't just controlled opposition. Kinda burning up all the ammo and helping guide the narrative. It would seem whatevers about to play out has been carefully crafted, seems more like a plan playing out than a personal beef that finally boiled over. But what do I know.

And ya know, part of me looks at all this and says it's just business as usual in the music industry, whatever. But part of me senses the parody of what drakes been doing, particularly with sexy red. It has this air of mockery, of they're laughing at us. Minstrel shows were/are really a thing. But maybe I'm tripping.

Bigger picture, what is happening right now is a battle between creative artistry stemming from lived human experience and cookie-cutter, formulaic, algorithmic "good songs". They are warming consumers up to the idea that it doesn't really matter where the lyrics come from as long as it sounds good. That the figurehead, the output of the content is more important than the source of the content. Which will transition well into the AI musicians we will eventually be listening to. Why do you think corporations have been buying up all these old masters across all generes? They are training AI on all that data as we speak. I feel like music as we known it is on the brink of change.

Jbreezyondeck

11mo

This was very informative and I know this site is jokes but it would be better if more people put the time in for their topics like you did. Appreciate it g

goretex

11mo

ngl this may be top 10 threads in ktt2 history

goretex

11mo

ngl this may be top 10 threads in ktt2 history

WRF

11mo

why are boss moves bad when its drizzy?

barry dillon

11mo

not to be on ye timing but why it had to be the jewish rapper that owns everything behind the scenes lol

OrchidBehavior

11mo

What's wrong with a half white/hsiweJ guy?who infiltrates the culture vulturing under the guise of camroderie like CoIntrlPro to gaun leverage for and benefit the labels counter a Renaissance of independent artistry and be the only one to profit for it like a slave master? I'll let you figure it out love.

barry dillon

11mo

weird angle w this whole "infiltrate the culture" s***. like drake's first deal is public information. he did not start out as a label insider, we know this.

when he came in the game he was in the same position as any other rapper making noise. he just made more hits and more money, now u mad that he gets the lucian package