Apr 23, 2025·1 reply
ICEMAN KIRthe older you get the more you realize that the biggie and pac narrative is basically like having juice wrld or xxxtentacion in your top 5 but for oldheads
Nah, Pac influence still felt to this day and he’s done a LOT of music despite him dying early
XXXTentacion is super overrated imo. Juice WRLD was nice but his discog wasn’t great either
Apr 23, 2025·2 repliesFlyHiiiNah, Pac influence still felt to this day and he’s done a LOT of music despite him dying early
XXXTentacion is super overrated imo. Juice WRLD was nice but his discog wasn’t great either
juice has a classic album i think the better comparison would be juice and pop smoke
- Apr 23, 2025·1 replyAndre Jaquet
juice has a classic album i think the better comparison would be juice and pop smoke
I had a huge comp of Juice leaks, really liked the guy and he had a lot of potential.
But he doesn’t have a classic album
Also Big and Pac have multiple classics
- Apr 23, 2025·2 repliesFlyHiii
I had a huge comp of Juice leaks, really liked the guy and he had a lot of potential.
But he doesn’t have a classic album
Also Big and Pac have multiple classics
goodbye and good riddance is def a classic for my gen ngl
Apr 23, 2025
Shin ChanNot mad at that, Wayne is a GOAT
- Apr 23, 2025·1 replyAndre Jaquet
goodbye and good riddance is def a classic for my gen ngl
Im in your gen most likely, i don’t think it is. I always felt like for how great of an artist he was he had yet to make some real definitive body of work
It’s more bloated but i prefer Deathrace to GBGR even
Nort 💫Apr 23, 2025·1 replyofc
- Apr 23, 2025·edited·3 repliesFlyHiii
Im in your gen most likely, i don’t think it is. I always felt like for how great of an artist he was he had yet to make some real definitive body of work
It’s more bloated but i prefer Deathrace to GBGR even
i mean yh death race might eb better but GBGR has like 4 undeniable classic huge generational hit songs and is a defining record of that soundcloud era and his whole type of rap, it influenced a lot of artists that came after him, and you probably knew atleast a few people that were obsessed with juice wrld or looked up to him right? i remember he was the largest thing in the world to us at one point and so many people looked up to him and played him nonstop for years, esp goodbye good riddance. like even in 2020 and 2024 i knew guys in my hs that were obsessed with him esp that album
that album has all girls are the same, lucid dreams, wasted, armed & dangerous, and lean wit me back to back as the first quarter
Apr 23, 2025·1 reply
AbyssThere is like a pool of around 20-30 rappers that you can pick anyone really out of and say they the goat and you have a case for it. It really only depends on what you value the most. Is it hits, influence, lyrics etc?
Personally I would put Pac and Wayne over Biggie just because his catalog is too short to put him in my top 5 or something. But I have a hard time deciding between Wayne and Pac. Probably Wayne > Pac > Biggie
your first sentence is exactly why i find "GOAT" / "top 10" / "mount rushmore" conversations online so bad. if youre not saying one of the people from the pool, people look at you like you have no idea what you're talking about.
Apr 23, 2025Andre Jaqueti mean yh death race might eb better but GBGR has like 4 undeniable classic huge generational hit songs and is a defining record of that soundcloud era and his whole type of rap, it influenced a lot of artists that came after him, and you probably knew atleast a few people that were obsessed with juice wrld or looked up to him right? i remember he was the largest thing in the world to us at one point and so many people looked up to him and played him nonstop for years, esp goodbye good riddance. like even in 2020 and 2024 i knew guys in my hs that were obsessed with him esp that album
that album has all girls are the same, lucid dreams, wasted, armed & dangerous, and lean wit me back to back as the first quarter
Both are classics
Apr 23, 2025
Unforgivable
- Apr 23, 2025NunTheWiser
your first sentence is exactly why i find "GOAT" / "top 10" / "mount rushmore" conversations online so bad. if youre not saying one of the people from the pool, people look at you like you have no idea what you're talking about.
I agree. Thats why I prefer when people make have their own personal goat list instead of trying to be more objective or something like that. I might have Thug, Future, Cam, Jada in my top 10 and not Nas, Snoop and Em just because what I like personally
Apr 23, 2025AbyssThere is like a pool of around 20-30 rappers that you can pick anyone really out of and say they the goat and you have a case for it. It really only depends on what you value the most. Is it hits, influence, lyrics etc?
Personally I would put Pac and Wayne over Biggie just because his catalog is too short to put him in my top 5 or something. But I have a hard time deciding between Wayne and Pac. Probably Wayne > Pac > Biggie
The pool is barely half that
Apr 23, 2025
Valentinebody of work (a lot of quality in free mixtapes lol)…influence…artists signed…lyrical ability…creativity…name a rap style he got it…
nigga did this at 18
!https://youtu.be/2on9KoE2j9w?si=cLhbh3PFl1m9s4MNnigga did this at 20
!https://youtu.be/U5udj-KH8lo?si=hRZkPcFPSZ94Qbnwnigga did this at 22
!https://youtu.be/0A6F7VLEs7k?si=jHsVjXisw8Vfjsnonigga did this at 23
!https://youtu.be/Y1oxYCgp4q0?si=hfHCahDLILGnWnEKnigga did this at 24
!https://youtu.be/wkA3p3YqH9U?si=IcZytD8LKCy1vGcinigga did this at 25
!https://youtu.be/-jjinYRsY4I?si=bRSm5xfr4z4P0_m6and that’s a fraction. all the mixtapes…goated features (the Wayne remix was an automatic hit) and still had yet to drop Carter 3 :vlosereave: one day Wayne will get his respect smdh
- Apr 23, 2025·1 replyAndre Jaquet
juice has a classic album i think the better comparison would be juice and pop smoke
"juice has a classic album"
- Apr 23, 2025·1 replyMafia Boss
"juice has a classic album"
Good bye good riddance is a classic for sure
Apr 23, 2025same
- Apr 23, 2025·2 repliesFree YoungBoy
Good bye good riddance is a classic for sure
If that's the bar for determining a classic...
Apr 23, 2025Nortofc
- Apr 23, 2025·1 replyMafia Boss
If that's the bar for determining a classic...
What do you think keeps it from being a classic? I think it checks all the boxes
- Apr 23, 2025·1 replyMafia Boss
If that's the bar for determining a classic...
It’s beloved to this day, its iconic for its era, it has stood the test of time, and its extremely commercially successful
- Apr 23, 2025·1 replyFree YoungBoy
What do you think keeps it from being a classic? I think it checks all the boxes
It just depends on what we are basing classic albums off of. Some people would say classics need to be great bodies of work as well. GBGR is not a good album it just had a few good songs.
How many classics would you say are from 2018 to now?
- Apr 23, 2025·1 replyAndre Jaquet
It’s beloved to this day, its iconic for its era, it has stood the test of time, and its extremely commercially successful
Would you say there were a lot of classic albums from 2018 to now then?
- Apr 23, 2025·1 replyMafia Boss
It just depends on what we are basing classic albums off of. Some people would say classics need to be great bodies of work as well. GBGR is not a good album it just had a few good songs.
How many classics would you say are from 2018 to now?
I would saw a lot but I’m pretty lax with what I would consider a classic. I also believe that not all classics are equal.
Apr 23, 2025I won't disagree even though 2pac is my favorite rapper.