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  • Did you ask him about the KTT cults?

  • Feb 25
    herald

    then dont paint s*** w a broad brush and act like u not being disingenuous doing so. furthermore dont engage if u dont care and immediately resort to insulting people for providing nuance. goofball.

    I didn't paint anything with a broad brush, you just don't know how to read. Pretendians was right there in the sentence.

    And what are you going to do if i insult you? real s***, what will you do?

  • Feb 25

    if i dont keep it football what the f*** u gon dew

  • Did you ask him how we can start one? Im down to have you as the leader as long as I have a high position. Like "great one" or something

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    Classique

    Not all religions are cults but cults can involve religion

    Which religions are not cults?

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    Poolboy Q

    Which religions are not cults?

    The list of religions that are cults are shorter than the list of ones that are cults

  • Feb 25
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    Classique

    The list of religions that are cults are shorter than the list of ones that are cults

    Can you elaborate on what makes a particular religion NOT a cult? Any specific religions in mind?

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    Poolboy Q

    Can you elaborate on what makes a particular religion NOT a cult? Any specific religions in mind?

    The Abrahamic religions (Christianity, Islam, Judaism) are not cults because they lack authoritarian leaders (the spiritual leaders are not who jim jones was to them), they don’t imprison or isolate members, those who identify as followers of those religions can exit at any time, and internally allow for debate and diversity rather than a singular enforced interpretation

    If anyone leverages those religions to create a cult it does not mean the religion is a cult

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    Classique

    The Abrahamic religions (Christianity, Islam, Judaism) are not cults because they lack authoritarian leaders (the spiritual leaders are not who jim jones was to them), they don’t imprison or isolate members, those who identify as followers of those religions can exit at any time, and internally allow for debate and diversity rather than a singular enforced interpretation

    If anyone leverages those religions to create a cult it does not mean the religion is a cult

    But what about all the people who died in the name of those religions? Crusades? Killing people who don’t practice the same faith. Jesus was persecuted by the Jews for not practicing their faith it was blasphemy to them. That’s why he died.

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    I think it does make it a cult. Every religion is just spoonfeeding people bullshit and brainwashing them

  • You also don’t need to be imprisoned to be considered in a cult, Trump supporters are in a cult but they have the free will to leave whenever, they are just too brainwashed.

    I don’t think people usually convert to different religions either. For the most part whatever you are born you will follow. And when people do convert they are jus going from one cult to another.

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    Poolboy Q

    But what about all the people who died in the name of those religions? Crusades? Killing people who don’t practice the same faith. Jesus was persecuted by the Jews for not practicing their faith it was blasphemy to them. That’s why he died.

    What you said has nothing to do with what I said. Violence committed in the name of a religion does not make the religion a cult.

    The Crusades were performed by European monarchies who declared their nations were Christian nations. The Crusades were done to reclaim land that was at that time under Islamic control to increase their influence in the world. It wasn’t done under purely religious motivations. The man who wrote the new testament of the bible (it wasn’t one man who wrote it anyway) didn’t tell them to do it or else.

    Jesus was crucified because his teachings were gaining a loud following and were threatening the influence of the pharisees. The Jews didn’t crucify him the Romans did because he declared himself a king which was punishable by crucifixion. The pharisees used this as their way to get rid of him it wasn’t under the command of a cult leader

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    Poolboy Q

    I think it does make it a cult. Every religion is just spoonfeeding people bullshit and brainwashing them

    You are free to think whatever you want but if you read into what a cult is and what a religion is you would separate the two out of respect for the victims of dangerous cults. Whether you believe in the validity of individual religions is irrelevant to the question of “are religions cults”

  • Great watch, got me going down a rabbit hole about cults

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    Classique

    You are free to think whatever you want but if you read into what a cult is and what a religion is you would separate the two out of respect for the victims of dangerous cults. Whether you believe in the validity of individual religions is irrelevant to the question of “are religions cults”

    “A cult is generally defined as a social group with socially deviant, extreme, or unorthodox beliefs, often revolving around a charismatic leader who uses manipulative tactics to control members”

    How is this not every religion ever?

  • Cults are goated

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    Poolboy Q

    “A cult is generally defined as a social group with socially deviant, extreme, or unorthodox beliefs, often revolving around a charismatic leader who uses manipulative tactics to control members”

    How is this not every religion ever?

    Oh brother

  • Willie Wildcat

    Oh brother

    Every religion has something before it that was deviating from the social norm. We use to worship the Sun.

    Every religion has rules to control its members

  • Nayuta

    Thats just the hoteps that are insecure about their roots and feel the need to concoct a superman origin story about our people. Its always an american nigga trying to talk about that s*** and you never hear africans that know their lineage doing any of that for obvious reasons. Essentially goes off life starting in Africa therefore black people were everywhere on the planet first.

    "Life started on earth therefore every planet is Earth" ass logic

    Can't stand those type folks. Just makes the discussion muddy for no reason and gives off extreme mental illness the way they claim civilisations they weren't a part of.

  • Btw the first crusades were just a bunch of religious riled up Europeans that didn’t even make it to the Middle East they ended up killing tons of people along the way and never made it

    Religion is f***ing dumb af anyone who follows it is stupid. You don’t need some religious kook to tell you right from wrong

  • And here’s a fun fact: we all die. Accept it. Stop being so afraid of death

  • My grandpa watched his baby brother die from gangrene because my great grandparent thought it could be prayed away.

    My family stopped going to a Methodist church when I was a kid because my mom decided she wanted my sister to reach a certain age and choose for herself if she wanted to be baptized or not. The church didn’t like that and we stopped going. Religion just a way to persecute and shun people.

  • JayS

    Is religion a cult?

    I guess not if not openly practised idk

  • Classique

    The Abrahamic religions (Christianity, Islam, Judaism) are not cults because they lack authoritarian leaders (the spiritual leaders are not who jim jones was to them), they don’t imprison or isolate members, those who identify as followers of those religions can exit at any time, and internally allow for debate and diversity rather than a singular enforced interpretation

    If anyone leverages those religions to create a cult it does not mean the religion is a cult

    "Those who identify as followers of those religions can exit at any time"

    This is not the case for islam my brother. It's a major sin actually, which can lead to a death sentence

  • HBDUSA 🇺🇸
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    YoungNastyShawty
    !https://youtu.be/TnFH_GX8Zoc?si=eLh9E8hBT8SL3gZd

    Very interesting interview. He used to be in a cult, got out, earned a phd and studied cults. Talks about pimps being cult leaders, Donald and other stuff

    Before I hit play do you ask him about Kanye