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  • Jul 20, 2024
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    turntout

    Lots don’t. Lots of film makers don’t watch movies. They study old art. Miyamoto doesnt play videogames, he plays music. Just because you don’t like how someone is interpreting art, doesn’t mean it’s diluting the art form. Your way of consuming art isnt superior to someone else’s.

    Miyamoto has other hobbies outside of gaming, it’s not that he doesn’t play video games

    PinkPantheress speaks about the album form as if it’s pointless and meaningless to spend time engaging with, in other words, diluting the art form.

    All of the greatest film directors of all time either watched or studied film in some capacity

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    Miyamoto has other hobbies outside of gaming, it’s not that he doesn’t play video games

    PinkPantheress speaks about the album form as if it’s pointless and meaningless to spend time engaging with, in other words, diluting the art form.

    All of the greatest film directors of all time either watched or studied film in some capacity

    He genuinely doesn’t play videogames in his free time. lol studying old art is studying film making, you don’t have to watch movies in your free time make them. How do you think the first movies were made? What movies did they watch then? None. They looked at old art. Same process as today. That’s literally my industry man. A lot of the film makers I know don’t watch it in their free time. Pink panthress studies music just fine. She literally just said she doesn’t enjoy listening to albums. If anything this perspective expands the art form, by adding to the perspectives of viewing art, not taking away from it.

  • Jul 20, 2024
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    He genuinely doesn’t play videogames in his free time. lol studying old art is studying film making, you don’t have to watch movies in your free time make them. How do you think the first movies were made? What movies did they watch then? None. They looked at old art. Same process as today. That’s literally my industry man. A lot of the film makers I know don’t watch it in their free time. Pink panthress studies music just fine. She literally just said she doesn’t enjoy listening to albums. If anything this perspective expands the art form, by adding to the perspectives of viewing art, not taking away from it.

    She doesn’t listen to albums and thinks songs don’t need to be longer than two minutes. How is she expanding the art form?

    Her music is amazing but it’s sad to hear her limit herself like this. How can you not be curious about the art you create?

    This isn’t even just about her, a lot of younger Gen Z has this anti-intellectual/“it’s not that deep” view of art

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    She doesn’t listen to albums and thinks songs don’t need to be longer than two minutes. How is she expanding the art form?

    Her music is amazing but it’s sad to hear her limit herself like this. How can you not be curious about the art you create?

    This isn’t even just about her, a lot of younger Gen Z has this anti-intellectual/“it’s not that deep” view of art

    Because the experience of the process of making it, is very different than experiencing the end result. Some people like one or the other, some people like both. All is equally valid. Self imposed limitations can create some of the best art. She’s just making what she enjoys, she’s not limiting what others are making. By putting forward different perspectives on how to consume art, that only broadens the ways people can enjoy it. She’s adding to a pool of perspectives, not taking away.
    And gen z isnt a monolith. Everyone always thinks the younger generation are doing something wrong, this goes back thousands of years. People in gen z still like albums, lots of millennials have been making playlists since the mid 2000s. It’s a none issue. How younger people consume their art doesn’t concern me.
    Hoping I can open your mind a bit

  • Jul 20, 2024
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    turntout

    Because the experience of the process of making it, is very different than experiencing the end result. Some people like one or the other, some people like both. All is equally valid. Self imposed limitations can create some of the best art. She’s just making what she enjoys, she’s not limiting what others are making. By putting forward different perspectives on how to consume art, that only broadens the ways people can enjoy it. She’s adding to a pool of perspectives, not taking away.
    And gen z isnt a monolith. Everyone always thinks the younger generation are doing something wrong, this goes back thousands of years. People in gen z still like albums, lots of millennials have been making playlists since the mid 2000s. It’s a none issue. How younger people consume their art doesn’t concern me.
    Hoping I can open your mind a bit

    I’m Gen Z myself so it’s not me looking down on the younger generation, these are my peers. The amount of people I can find around my age who genuinely want to have an in-depth discussion of any type of art is small. It obviously exists, but it’s definitely the minority in my generation.

    Take this site for example. What are the threads the usually drive the most traction: the drama/stan wars s*** or the actual discussions about music?

    You keep saying she’s broadening it but she’s literally doing the opposite.

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    TheFader

    I’m Gen Z myself so it’s not me looking down on the younger generation, these are my peers. The amount of people I can find around my age who genuinely want to have an in-depth discussion of any type of art is small. It obviously exists, but it’s definitely the minority in my generation.

    Take this site for example. What are the threads the usually drive the most traction: the drama/stan wars s*** or the actual discussions about music?

    You keep saying she’s broadening it but she’s literally doing the opposite.

    Ok, I think where we differ is you view her self imposed limitations as doing the opposite of broadening.

    For herself, yes, it technically does, you’re right. But self imposed limitations in art is a tried and true technique to creating art. Is people drawing in black and white, instead of painting in colour a limitation? Is a poem a limitation because it’s not a novel? Technically yes.
    But by having these self imposed limitations, she is NOT limiting what others are doing. She exists parallel to them. Her perspective is added, alongside all the other current perspective. Having poems and short stories exist ALONGSIDE novels, only broadens artistic perspectives, it does not limit them. Being able to draw in b&w instead of painting in colour sometimes, broadens the world of art, not limit it.
    Like Impressionism art, is created by limiting the amount of light and dark values you use. Claude Monet, Van Gogh, they used these self imposed limitations most of their life. It only broadened the world of art.
    So her sharing how she enjoys looking at art, only adds to the pool of ways we can all enjoy looking at art.

    As far as the drama Stan stuff, people have always been interested in the tabloid aspect of celebrity culture, instead of just the art. When Caravaggio killed somebody it was all the rage and drama hundreds of years ago. Same when Van Gogh chopped his ear off. When artists would get arrested for making fun of kings. Not everybody on this board creates, the only gatekeeping aspect is do you consume. So it’s focus on experiencing art, not so much creating it. If this board’s focus was on creation instead of consuming, you would see a huge reduction in the Stan stuff. Creatives ARE on here, but it’s just not the focus of the website.

    Lots of young people are interested in art, I meet them all the time. I will say you need to have life experience, for the breath of art you can enjoy, to grow. So age can sometimes be a limiting factor. Unfortunately the interest in creating at a high level will always be a minority, but it’s not more of a minority than in the past. If anything the interest in creating is growing. But the younger generations will grow up to create equally impressive art as their predecessors and are already creating amazing things.

  • Jul 22, 2024
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    Hey does it again.

    Arshan army keeps winning

  • Jul 22, 2024
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    @op you went to SFU right? crazy s***

  • Jul 24, 2024
    fun guy

    @op you went to SFU right? crazy s***

    yup, burnaby campus mainly lol

  • Jul 25, 2024
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    turntout

    He genuinely doesn’t play videogames in his free time. lol studying old art is studying film making, you don’t have to watch movies in your free time make them. How do you think the first movies were made? What movies did they watch then? None. They looked at old art. Same process as today. That’s literally my industry man. A lot of the film makers I know don’t watch it in their free time. Pink panthress studies music just fine. She literally just said she doesn’t enjoy listening to albums. If anything this perspective expands the art form, by adding to the perspectives of viewing art, not taking away from it.

    do you have a source on Miyamoto not playing video games?

  • Jul 25, 2024
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    Everything

    do you have a source on Miyamoto not playing video games?

    “Miyamoto spends little time playing video games in his personal time, preferring to play the guitar, mandolin, and banjo.” Straight off his wiki page, from an interview he did.

  • Jul 25, 2024
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    turntout

    “Miyamoto spends little time playing video games in his personal time, preferring to play the guitar, mandolin, and banjo.” Straight off his wiki page, from an interview he did.

    Man I thought you were saying he didn't play games at all lol

  • Jul 25, 2024
    Everything

    Man I thought you were saying he didn't play games at all lol

    Lmao no he play tests them. He just doesn’t play them in his spare time! My point was that you don’t have to consume the type of art you make, to make good art :) at least after a baseline exposure to it.