you’re right, it’s about HOW you make the money

and billionaires cannot make that type of money without committing something that nearly all of us consider morally evil

lol

hot take i will not explain any further:

no

disappointing

While pretending there is no reasoning behind their action or the fact how a lot of these enormously wealthy rich people are literally that enormously rich due to literal explotation, law avoidance & lobbying. Outside of just being "dumb".

I dont think all wealthy people are evil. I do well for myself living in two states throughout the year too even some with health issues since birth from a ghetto. I have an aunt uncle that are millionaire rich off of a constriction company in the mid west.

But i also can look outside my own situation & see the overall picture or norm, plus a pattern.

very valid response tbh, i'm oversimplifying a stance I have while looking over the exploitation of the working class

thinking people who are opposed to billionaires are jealous

this thread has no new arguments outside of the absolute cretins who think making money in our system is no more simple than:

your own work -> your own money

But it’s like, out of sight out of mind for them you feel me?

People act like billionaires are down in the shops whipping people, spitting on poors, idk wth they think their day to day is

They just running businesses and that’s how businesses are run. Are the conditions in Amazon factories ass? Idk I never worked there. Could be. But it’s not like bezos going to each factory weekly and making sure people getting their 8 hours of sleep and s***.

We done stripped too much accountability from society and place too much blame on a handful of billionaires at this point.

Rich people are evil

Unless they share some with me

a lot of billionaires can fit a corporate power monger archetype that nerd guy in OP is describing but a lot of them don't, wealth is not transferred in such a binary way that he thinks.

they know they put the people making them money in harsh, exploitative, dangerous, negligent, unsustainable conditions

they know they have the power to change the conditions they profit from to create a more equitable, peaceful, prosperous world, even if it may be at the cost of financial power

they ignore it, continue to worsen conditions, and sometimes violently stamp out attempts by workers to better their conditions

how can you STILL somehow try and think that they’re somehow less responsible than the people on the floor who are on the floor, barely scraping by while also having to enforce the commands of the powerful

you can’t blame society without first and foremost blaming those with the most power and the most influence in society

All I know is rich people are terrible

Can they really change it tho? Like maybe they could solve world hunger for like a week if they gave up their wealth but things will just go back to how they were before eventually

Gonna get rich and someone gonna tell me I changed

I dont know about billionaires but gingers with neck beards are definitely ehvul

billionaires are the primary influence in politics today, before the military, the public, or nearly anyone else

they could use

political lobbying
executive decisions within their companies
mechanical restructuring within their companies
philanthropy, private ventures

they will obviously not do any of these things, since its in their self interest to retain financial and economic power over their workers (it is also logically in the self interest of collective labor to usurp the power their owners have over the product of their labor)

thus, the natural recourse is for collective labor to take direct action against the powers that be. This can be achieved violently, nonviolently, etc

just goes to show money can't buy class

Powerball up to a billion. 6 numbers away from being a trash human being

also regarding world hunger:

we overproduce food for the world right now... we could feed the entire world an american calorie count nearly 1.5 times over, yet we throw away 119 BILLION POUNDS of food every year in the US alone

guess why? because if we distributed extra food, prices would drop, and that would be detrimental to the system that the rich owners of agricultural and distribution companies make money from.

so we have 5 million people starving to death every year worldwide because of the conscious decision to limit food distribution for the sake of money.

not because of famine, inefficiency, political leverage, incompetence, or conflict

because it hurts pockets

I've been around the world I'm not impressed

But wouldn't we just end up right back into this system eventually?

But so you really think it’s bezos doing that? You really think it’s solely on him?

Nothing to do the various people in positions of power below him? Cus he’s just at the top of an extremely long chain of command

There are factory managers that are much worse people than bezos. They’re the ones that directly impact workplace culture daily

I feel like you gotta go through so many people until you can start blaming the guy who is just on a yacht living life, letting other people run the company for the most part

Billionaires just an easy target cus there’s a face and name to them

Are you one of the rich passport bros that impregnate women overseas and dip

systems change every day though. efforts towards reconstruction, restructuring, and revitalizing have effects every day

we saw the system of capitalism change over the past 8 decades as wealth concentrated, politics became corrupted, and power in the public diminished immensely