Any billionaires out there that wanna pay me to defend them to the death on the internet, him my DMs!

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OP defending BATMAN in order to legitimize capitalism in his mind. A cartoon character from the 1940s. What are you doing

captivating counterargument

reminds me of discord atheists that post lmao

Ironically enough I’m at work rn and dont have much time to write essays although i do have more to say

Real quick tho are you claiming you’ ve never screwed anybody over to get advantage/the better end of the stick?

Actually no, I haven't. And even if I did, there is scale to take into consideration, and power dynamics. But I can genuinely say I've never screwed anyone over to get ahead. I've played fair my entire life and taken Ls if doing otherwise meant hurting someone else. I've lost job opportunities, friends, and money in the process, and I have no regrets.

He's just saying that humans will prioritize their family and their own well being vs the good of the overall community. That's why a utopia can never exist

The two are interdependent on one another in a globalized economy and socialism is actively against utopian lines of thinking.

At some point in your life you will probably realize that no one is ever going to give you a pat on the back for any sacrifices you’ve done for the better good. And even so - that pat is never going to put food on your table.

Also the reasons you specified for potentially screwing someone over apply to every other person on earth, going by your logic you are no better than anyone you’re pointing a finger at.

Yes

Just peeped thread but is this the gotchas y’all are using to combat billionaires exploiting people

I have plenty of food and I don't do it for a pat on the back. I do it so I can wake up and live with myself. I'm not a perfect person nor is anybody else, but going out of your way to make it a worse place or to at least disregard the overall well-being of our planet and species for your own narrow self-interest is myopic and stupid and devalues the very meaning of what it means to be alive.

It's pure self-hatred being packaged as bravery

How does socialism counter the selfishness and ambition of another human?

Yeah man I am sure people need an extra 15 billion dollars to feed their family

insert snarky response about how I’m better than you/don’t care because I am above it all and don’t concern myself with worldly matters

If I had a billion dollars I'd donate enough money to not be a billionaire

The question for me is whether it's evil or not to hoard your wealth without giving it away and letting it actually "trickle down" like Reagan convinced everyone billionaires would do

By separating ambition from the commodity form and using material a***ysis to address what leads humans toward selfish behavior, which is driven by material scarcity and biological survival imperative

This is kind of cynical thinking. You shouldn't be doing good in life for a "pat on the back"

It's not truly "good" if you're doing it for a reward

That's like the entire point lol. The philosophy of it is about removing the things in life that cause those situations

There is no need for selfishness under leftism

What you said categorically makes no sense, but even if it did, socialism isn't about individual moral purity. That's liberalism. Socialism is a scientific a***ysis of human production and social organization that determines that, due to our interconnectedness at an advanced level of productive development coupled with the immense exploitation the arbitrary owners of these means of production inflict on the people who actually do the labor, leads to an unstable dynamic that will engender constant suffering and the endangerment of our own species and life on Earth if left unchecked. Go to church if you want a pure soul.