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  • Jul 20, 2024
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    Free YoungBoy

    Don’t get me wrong, I f*** with XXX and his impact is undeniable but I don’t see many parallels between them

    You could say they were passionate, controversial and died young but that’s kinda where it ends

    Those are my exact parallels, and also on top Pac and X seemed to know how to resonate with their generation on a deep personal level. They knew how to speak to their generation.

    X honestly could have been Pac level if he was allowed to fully flesh out his life IMO

    Please don't flame me.

  • Jul 20, 2024
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    Block Muteson

    Why's everyone so mad

    Every thread nowadays lmao, niggas got strong opinions

  • Jul 20, 2024
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    hybrid supreme

    Nah i'm talking about the street dudes. The problem is all the lyrical dudes these days are sheltered nerds with nothing to actually rap about or "be lyrical" about. I ain't tryna hear no lyrical raps about how you washed your laundry today.

    Even the conscious dudes back then were street like Common

    The problem is all the lyrical dudes these days are sheltered nerds with nothing to actually rap about

    …and the street niggas arent?

  • Jul 20, 2024
    Windmaster

    Most of these dudes get 5mil+ streams a month on spofity I'd consider that mainstream

    Consider it whatever you want it’s not charting well

  • Jul 20, 2024
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    Windmaster

    Most of these dudes get 5mil+ streams a month on spofity I'd consider that mainstream

    Ooooh no

  • Jul 20, 2024
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    insertcoolnamehere

    The problem is all the lyrical dudes these days are sheltered nerds with nothing to actually rap about

    …and the street niggas arent?

    I'm talking about dudes like Raekwon, Nas, and DJ Quik

    These street dudes these days move like crash outs

  • Jul 20, 2024
    Valentine

    Every thread nowadays lmao, niggas got strong opinions

    I meant the people in OP. I'm not reading 8 pages about a Chuck Inglish tweet

  • Jul 20, 2024
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    Windmaster

    Most of these dudes get 5mil+ streams a month on spofity I'd consider that mainstream

    You know BigX?

  • Jul 20, 2024
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    hybrid supreme

    Cool not just in aesthetics but message and actual lyrics. Back then lyrical rappers were dropping made game and knowledge in their rhymes. These days there is 0.

    Back then lyrical rappers were dropping made game and knowledge in their rhymes. These days there is 0.
    There’s no knowledge in today’s lyrical rappers?

    I just went to a noname show last year dawg

  • Jul 20, 2024
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    insertcoolnamehere

    Ooooh no

    My b I forgot that everyone on ktt besides me has a doctorate in music marketing

  • Jul 20, 2024
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    Valentine

    You know BigX?

    Never heard of it tbh

  • Jul 20, 2024
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    Windmaster

    My b I forgot that everyone on ktt besides me has a doctorate in music marketing

    It’s a lot of music that gets million of views, that’s not what mainstream is and you know that.

  • Jul 20, 2024
    Windmaster

    Never heard of it tbh

    Probably gonna be a nigga with 20 mil+ lol

  • Jul 20, 2024
    Windmaster

    Most of these dudes get 5mil+ streams a month on spofity I'd consider that mainstream

    Earthgang are nowhere near mainstream bro

  • Jul 20, 2024
    insertcoolnamehere

    Back then lyrical rappers were dropping made game and knowledge in their rhymes. These days there is 0.
    There’s no knowledge in today’s lyrical rappers?

    I just went to a noname show last year dawg

    Noname is a good rapper and she's cool, but she reminds me of every girl in my Sociology 101 class. She just doesn't have the image or character to inspire people and fan the flames in their hearts like someone like Pac could

  • Jul 20, 2024
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    Windmaster

    Never heard of it tbh

    Kinda nullifies your point then lmao

  • Jul 20, 2024
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    insertcoolnamehere

    It’s a lot of music that gets million of views, that’s not what mainstream is and you know that.

    It's one thing to have a few songs get millions of plays, to have consistently high streaming on spotify means ur established in the genre on a level very few are. If ur a hip hop fan uve heard all the names I listed

  • Jul 20, 2024
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    There’s plenty of low-stakes aspirational rap available, I don’t get Chuck’s point. It anything, people would rag on The College Dropout today because it’s simultaneously so pro and anti materialist at the same time. It’d be like, soft-cancelled for “misogynoir”

  • Jul 20, 2024
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    hybrid supreme

    Those are my exact parallels, and also on top Pac and X seemed to know how to resonate with their generation on a deep personal level. They knew how to speak to their generation.

    X honestly could have been Pac level if he was allowed to fully flesh out his life IMO

    Please don't flame me.

    Yeah that’s a good point too about the way they connected with their respective generations.

    I just don’t think his music was up to par with what Pac had dropped even early on in his career even though he had a lot of talent for sure

  • Jul 20, 2024
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    hybrid supreme

    I'm talking about dudes like Raekwon, Nas, and DJ Quik

    These street dudes these days move like crash outs

    You said lyrical rappers are sheltered nerds with nothing to say.

    And im asking the street rappers aint?

    Most slay world niggas looked like nerds prior to the magical power of face tats

  • Jul 20, 2024
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    Valentine

    Kinda nullifies your point then lmao

    I'm a "hipster" (said by some ktt poster I forgot who) so it's not im my wheelhouse to know every mainstream artist. And yes there might be exceptions due to stream farming

  • Jul 20, 2024
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    insertcoolnamehere

    You said lyrical rappers are sheltered nerds with nothing to say.

    And im asking the street rappers aint?

    Most slay world niggas looked like nerds prior to the magical power of face tats

    Slayworld aren’t street rappers

  • Jul 20, 2024
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    Free YoungBoy

    Yeah that’s a good point too about the way they connected with their respective generations.

    I just don’t think his music was up to par with what Pac had dropped even early on in his career even though he had a lot of talent for sure

    Yeah X was nowhere near the level Pac was musically, his music seemed to be in it's infant stages as far as his creativity goes. Was really interested to see where he would have taken his sound, s*** sucks balls lol

  • Jul 20, 2024
    Free YoungBoy

    Slayworld aren’t street rappers

    They don't even got face tats lmao

  • Jul 20, 2024
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    Windmaster

    It's one thing to have a few songs get millions of plays, to have consistently high streaming on spotify means ur established in the genre on a level very few are. If ur a hip hop fan uve heard all the names I listed

    Established in a genre isn’t mainstream. Could name you 12 established modern Jazz artists you’ve never seen chart

    I don’t really get what you mean

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