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    carti aint asking to borrow taz taylor or nick mira yacht on a song and i hate that i have to put carti in the position of wayne here but lol

    but this guy has credits all over WLR

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    Wtf is this thread bro @OP

    Both these producers are very well respected and bringing race into it is just… why???

    Everybody I know loves Knxledge so dissing him also weird af

  • Aug 27, 2024
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    apextwintower

    na, im down for talk s*** on modern alc but he made this beat idk if knx have something similar

    !https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CCvgKMiVlI

    No f***ing way alchemist did we gonna make it wtf

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    Aug 27, 2024
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    FlyHiii

    Wtf is this thread bro @OP

    Both these producers are very well respected and bringing race into it is just… why???

    Everybody I know loves Knxledge so dissing him also weird af

    unrelated but how often people bring up irrévеrsible when seeing your avi?

  • Aug 27, 2024
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    WRU

    unrelated but how often people bring up irrévеrsible when seeing your avi?

    Tbh almost never the only people that reference Noé are in film or kino sxn that already know me

    I don’t think most people outside of cinema fans are aware of who Gaspar Noé is

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    Aug 27, 2024
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    FlyHiii

    Tbh almost never the only people that reference Noé are in film or kino sxn that already know me

    I don’t think most people outside of cinema fans are aware of who Gaspar Noé is

    crazy movie that one

  • Aug 27, 2024
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    allmygirlsdoyoga

    No f***ing way alchemist did we gonna make it wtf

    can’t tell if this sarcasm or not. if it’s not now i understand why alc gets hated on this site you niggas prolly was born after his prime lol

  • Aug 27, 2024
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    FlyHiii

    Tbh almost never the only people that reference Noé are in film or kino sxn that already know me

    I don’t think most people outside of cinema fans are aware of who Gaspar Noé is

    I peeped first half of Climax on Showtime or something

    It was gripping ngl

  • Aug 27, 2024
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    BIG CHIEF THUG

    I peeped first half of Climax on Showtime or something

    It was gripping ngl

    Why didn’t you watch the 2nd half lol the first half barely anything happens it’s mostly introducing characters and a long but cool dance sequence

  • Aug 27, 2024
    WRU

    crazy movie that one

    Sure is, but Climax and ETV >>> bc Irreversible is just too brutal for a regular rewatch

  • Aug 27, 2024
    splice

    can’t tell if this sarcasm or not. if it’s not now i understand why alc gets hated on this site you niggas prolly was born after his prime lol

    Maybe his mainstream prime but I think his production has evolved a lot since then

  • FlyHiii

    Why didn’t you watch the 2nd half lol the first half barely anything happens it’s mostly introducing characters and a long but cool dance sequence

    I think something important came up iirc

    Forgot about it until now.

    Nah I saw some of the crazy s*** going down about that key and the locked door and the pregnant lady and all

  • Aug 27, 2024
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    Whatcouldgowrong

    nick mira and internet money?

    murda beatz?

    just to name a few

    None of them have as timeless a beat as Still D.R.E.

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    WRU

    we already had a talk on personal qualities and I told you how I look at it like what do you want from me lol

    Oh so you just dont understand how business works

    Damn, thought you was smarter than this ngl

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    insertcoolnamehere

    None of them have as timeless a beat as Still D.R.E.

    that's not Storch man.

    he just replayed the sample.

    the idea started with Dre

  • They don’t have similar styles

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    insertcoolnamehere

    Oh so you just dont understand how business works

    Damn, thought you was smarter than this ngl

    Me understanding how business works doesn’t mean I can’t have a problem with it. Like okay Alchemist approaches it in this ‘big business’ way and Knxwledge is ‘volatile’ or whatever, meanwhile their output is along the same lines and we now wanna bring personal qualities into it just because one has a web store and the other sells his s*** thru bandcamp ie maintains a small-time operation

    You love Alc, in this context, for his business but I don’t, to the point that I dislike how he only contributes to something when it explicitly features his tag on it, even if it’s for artists in his own lane

  • Aug 27, 2024
    insertcoolnamehere

    None of them have as timeless a beat as Still D.R.E.

    comparing internet money to Scott storch

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    WRU
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    Me understanding how business works doesn’t mean I can’t have a problem with it. Like okay Alchemist approaches it in this ‘big business’ way and Knxwledge is ‘volatile’ or whatever, meanwhile their output is along the same lines and we now wanna bring personal qualities into it just because one has a web store and the other sells his s*** thru bandcamp ie maintains a small-time operation

    You love Alc, in this context, for his business but I don’t, to the point that I dislike how he only contributes to something when it explicitly features his tag on it, even if it’s for artists in his own lane

    He has production credits on a ton of peoples albums

    If it’s a f***ing collab then yeah he’s gonna be credited, Like what are you even talking about

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    Aug 27, 2024
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    notbrock

    He has production credits on a ton of peoples albums

    If it’s a f***ing collab then yeah he’s gonna be credited, Like what are you even talking about

    this two-way of doing business will always seem off to me when it becomes streamlined as is the case with Alc’s collab albums. To me it’d be interesting to know if people would have a problem with it down the line or had one already and we don’t know it yet

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    Whatcouldgowrong

    that's not Storch man.

    he just replayed the sample.

    the idea started with Dre

    Aight man lmfaooooo

  • Aug 27, 2024
    Block Muteson

    Have you considered this

    !https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TKmOvAjxeQ

    Thank you for reminding me of this masterpiece

  • Aug 27, 2024
    RICHAXXVOYCE

    @insertcoolnamehere

    Context don't matter, you said no-no words

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    WRU

    this two-way of doing business will always seem off to me when it becomes streamlined as is the case with Alc’s collab albums. To me it’d be interesting to know if people would have a problem with it down the line or had one already and we don’t know it yet

    His collab with Larry June is through both labels, His and Larry’s. He clearly has no problem doing that

    When he works with a small independent artist its usually through his label because he handles all the vinyls, physicals and merch

    Again do you have a problem with Madlib putting collabs out on his own label?

  • Aug 27, 2024
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    notbrock

    His collab with Larry June is through both labels, His and Larry’s. He clearly has no problem doing that

    When he works with a small independent artist its usually through his label because he handles all the vinyls, physicals and merch

    Again do you have a problem with Madlib putting collabs out on his own label?

    Yeah lol for Fetti it was released thru all 3’s labels. Alc and Freddie wanted to do merch and a tour but Curren$y didn’t do that didnt pan out even tho it was a 2/3 decision.

    There’s definitely artist input