Reply
  • Mar 15
    ·
    2 replies

    do you really think donald trump gonna stop the genocide lol

  • Mar 15

    I think the Presidential election seems like a big thing when you think the only possible political actions for people to have are voting every 4 years for either of two capitalist parties that are bought out by companies.

    Rather than organizing communities and building actual change because you realize its not going to come from the top down barring some sort of miraculous event

  • Mar 15
    ·
    1 reply

    the only respectable option is full blown revolution, since that will never happen the next best option is damage control

  • Mar 15
    Fax My Brother

    the only respectable option is full blown revolution, since that will never happen the next best option is damage control

    damage control as in, voting for the person who letting a genocide rock under his watch?
    Hard af

  • Mar 15
    ·
    1 reply
    Fax My Brother

    do you really think donald trump gonna stop the genocide lol

    Quit with the f***ing red herrings and explain to me why yall libs seems to think that Trumps crimes are worse than committing a genocide

    Or is genocide just not that big of a deal to you

  • trump would do exactly the same & also deport arabs in the us for opposing israel (which he has said he would do).

    there's literally a section of the golan heights called 'trump heights' and he moved the embassy to jerusalem

    disagree with Biden as much as you want and you're under no obligation to vote for anyone, but in reality not voting for Biden is a swing state is a vote for trump, and if the dems lose in 2024 their takeaway is going to be to moderate to get more indys in the middle, not shift left to try to win low turnout voters on the left. A 2nd revenge fueled trump presidency is also going to cause incredible harm to immigrants/trans people/etc.

    I'm of the opinion that holding your nose and voting for biden is better than voting for someone who has literally said he is going to be a dictator on day 1. I haven't really heard a good argument from the left for not voting biden in swing states when the realistic outcome of that is a trump win.

  • Mar 15
    ·
    2 replies

    Idk why some people just can't admit they support another Trump presidency lol

  • Sponge2ChanBob

    Okay that's cool and all but Biden is currently supporting the genocide (not a 'hypothetical' Trump would be worse) and has been from the jump its a bipartisan scheme republicans and democrats have been f***ing over Palestine since before any of us were born

    First of all Biden got the biggest israel lobby bag of any politician in history lets get that straight

    Second of all trump is a rétard but that doesn't negate the fact that this genocide and mass exodus of people from their homes has been done under biden's leadership and with american bombs under a democratic administration, I don't see how people think its rhetorically smart to say "But trump would be worse"

    Worse than nearly 2 million people being displaced from their homes and still being massacred as their bodies are decaying from starvation because the people who have been forced into whats essentially a concentration camp dared to resist?

    F*** Biden, Trump, AOC and all of these f***ing idiots that stand in the way of Palestinian resistance

    At least if that combover having f*** were in office maybe democrats would think they could do something because its the republican doing the same thing democrats have been doing maybe it would actually activate some sense of realization that something bad was happening because the other side's geriatric mentally declining f***head was in office

    F***ing idiotic way too look at s***

    Have a blessed day + Love

    At least if that combover having f*** were in office maybe democrats would think they could do something because its the republican doing the same thing democrats have been doing maybe it would actually activate some sense of realization that something bad was happening because the other side's geriatric mentally declining f***head was in office

    /thread

  • Mar 15
    ·
    2 replies
    Tobacco al Houthi

    Quit with the f***ing red herrings and explain to me why yall libs seems to think that Trumps crimes are worse than committing a genocide

    Or is genocide just not that big of a deal to you

    i think ur a bit dense and purposefully trying to stoke flames to try and get people on your side

    trump's leadership was starting dehumanization efforts (which biden continued) for multiple different types of people

    both are evil men, and the genocide would continue regardless, so at that point it's about trying to figure out who's less evil, and since i dont see biden throwing mexicans and gays into camps then there's your answer

  • Mar 15
    ·
    1 reply
    Fax My Brother

    i think ur a bit dense and purposefully trying to stoke flames to try and get people on your side

    trump's leadership was starting dehumanization efforts (which biden continued) for multiple different types of people

    both are evil men, and the genocide would continue regardless, so at that point it's about trying to figure out who's less evil, and since i dont see biden throwing mexicans and gays into camps then there's your answer

    biden is throwing mexicans into camps, what the f*** are you on about

    time.com/6550047/joe-biden-immigration-private-prisons

  • Mar 15
    ·
    3 replies
    Himothee

    The non-interventionist approach is wrong too though. Pulling out and letting things resolve to its natural conclusion means Israel continues genociding and ethnic cleansing Palestinians.

    If the Holocaust happened today, niggas wouldn’t be taking about “let Hitler vs Jews play out to its natural conclusion” because the natural conclusion would be millions of people killed and all of us just sitting back watching

    It's all wrong though no matter what option you pick. Neither side is actually strong enough to completely rid of each other. That's why they've been at war for 100+ years. It's the same s*** it's always been except now we have internet.

    Also, neither side is Hitler or Jews. It's a deeper conflict conflated by both sides severely hating each other but neither one of them have the power to completely rid the other side on their own. The Jews had zero muscle to contend Hitler.

    The only real hope is replacing far right Israel's regime and brokering a peace. But that's wishful thinking. And Trump is not going to displace another country's far right movement.

  • XavierMane

    It's all wrong though no matter what option you pick. Neither side is actually strong enough to completely rid of each other. That's why they've been at war for 100+ years. It's the same s*** it's always been except now we have internet.

    Also, neither side is Hitler or Jews. It's a deeper conflict conflated by both sides severely hating each other but neither one of them have the power to completely rid the other side on their own. The Jews had zero muscle to contend Hitler.

    The only real hope is replacing far right Israel's regime and brokering a peace. But that's wishful thinking. And Trump is not going to displace another country's far right movement.

    you dont know anything about the struggle of my people, just keep Palestine out of your mouth until youre less ignorant on the topic

  • Mar 15
    ·
    1 reply
    Fax My Brother

    i think ur a bit dense and purposefully trying to stoke flames to try and get people on your side

    trump's leadership was starting dehumanization efforts (which biden continued) for multiple different types of people

    both are evil men, and the genocide would continue regardless, so at that point it's about trying to figure out who's less evil, and since i dont see biden throwing mexicans and gays into camps then there's your answer

    Answer my question. Stop with the games.

    Since you liberals like to constantly harp about how trump cannot be qualified to be president due to his crimes, why is Biden qualified to be president despite committing the crime of genocide? Do you believe any of trumps crimes approach the severity of a genocide? Or do you simply not find genocide of Palestinians to be a big deal?

  • Mar 15
    ·
    1 reply
    XavierMane

    It's all wrong though no matter what option you pick. Neither side is actually strong enough to completely rid of each other. That's why they've been at war for 100+ years. It's the same s*** it's always been except now we have internet.

    Also, neither side is Hitler or Jews. It's a deeper conflict conflated by both sides severely hating each other but neither one of them have the power to completely rid the other side on their own. The Jews had zero muscle to contend Hitler.

    The only real hope is replacing far right Israel's regime and brokering a peace. But that's wishful thinking. And Trump is not going to displace another country's far right movement.

    Shut the f*** up

  • Tobacco al Houthi

    Shut the f*** up

    Or how about you stfu? If yall want to discuss s*** then lets discuss s***. Otherwise just be emotional somewhere else.

  • Mar 15
    ·
    edited
    XavierMane

    It's all wrong though no matter what option you pick. Neither side is actually strong enough to completely rid of each other. That's why they've been at war for 100+ years. It's the same s*** it's always been except now we have internet.

    Also, neither side is Hitler or Jews. It's a deeper conflict conflated by both sides severely hating each other but neither one of them have the power to completely rid the other side on their own. The Jews had zero muscle to contend Hitler.

    The only real hope is replacing far right Israel's regime and brokering a peace. But that's wishful thinking. And Trump is not going to displace another country's far right movement.

    Israeli politicians and other office holders are vocally genocidal and have stated their genocidal intent, i don’t know what the purpose of a hitler comparison would be other than the fact of signifying to people that both nazi germany was, and israel is, bent on exterminating a specific group of people

    that’s just basically correct, but the comparisons to him shouldn’t even need to be brought up for people to realize that Israel is a disgusting settler colonial state

  • Mar 15

    Both sidesing a genocide is crazy

    Whoa man, now u got me convinced to vote dem

  • Fax My Brother

    do you really think donald trump gonna stop the genocide lol

    Biden certainly won’t

  • ThomFork

    Trump would support the genocide even more than Biden would if he had the chance btw.

  • Mar 15
    ·
    1 reply

    so let’s just take our chance at forfeiting democracy to a wannabe strongman instead w boycotting

  • Himothee

    The non-interventionist approach is wrong too though. Pulling out and letting things resolve to its natural conclusion means Israel continues genociding and ethnic cleansing Palestinians.

    If the Holocaust happened today, niggas wouldn’t be taking about “let Hitler vs Jews play out to its natural conclusion” because the natural conclusion would be millions of people killed and all of us just sitting back watching

    That what was happening in WW2 though...

    The U.S. didn't get involved until Japan attacked the U.S.

    The U.S. would have let it happened, and honestly that wouldn't be an entirely wrong answer since it's not our business.

    Israel is directly involved with us, so the stance is different now.

  • Mar 15
    ·
    1 reply

    I think for the majority of history, most of the world doesn't give af if a race of people are wiped out...

  • Mar 15
    www quakerboy us

    so let’s just take our chance at forfeiting democracy to a wannabe strongman instead w boycotting

    “Wannabe strongman” as if biden isn’t acting like it’s the cold war all over again

    find an actual difference between them and then we can discuss that, they’re out there

  • Mar 15
    ·
    1 reply

    It's interesting how the Palestinian situation for Biden is the equivalent to the covid/George Floyd BLM situation for Trump

    Both significant events are the direct downfall for both

  • Mar 15
    ·
    3 replies
    Himothee

    Also there’s no realistic way Trump can make the genocide 100x worse besides putting boots on the ground, which he obviously isn’t going to do.

    Again this isn’t a defense of him. He will be worse on a domestic front and has already signaled he wants to deport Palestinians or Arabs on student visas out of the country if they speak out against Israel. But that doesn’t mean we gotta vote Biden when he’s actively aiding and abetting a genocide either. Just stating the facts

    do you want a trump presidency? bc not voting for biden gets us a trump presidency, whether you vote for trump or not