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  • Jul 23, 2024
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    OHMNI

    its not about leftist gaining power

    Its not about power.

    Its about since I have been like 10 and watched the bombs over baghdad and learned about atrocities committed by both sides I vowed to not vote for someone who would continue that

    I am not telling anyone else what to do with their life, freedom or vote

    you are in here telling me what to do with my life

    I don't know you or care about your thoughts

    it is confusing to be complaining about those in power and then taking pride in not voting or attempting to change the status quo by recruiting or creating grassroots movements

    there will be no change in foreign or domestic policy unless those in power care for change. mind blowing concept I know

    you can scream until you are blue in the face about the atrocities (I hate what has been happening as well), but until you have power you have nothing

    I am in no way wanting to pressure anyone into a vote they do not believe in. the unfortunate way this country works is you are voting for what you do not want because people are too occupied with everyday life to begin to care about politics. this is where organizing and phone banks come into play. all we can do is educate people and if you truly want to see change you must do it from within

  • Jul 23, 2024
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    silkyyysmoothhh

    it is confusing to be complaining about those in power and then taking pride in not voting or attempting to change the status quo by recruiting or creating grassroots movements

    there will be no change in foreign or domestic policy unless those in power care for change. mind blowing concept I know

    you can scream until you are blue in the face about the atrocities (I hate what has been happening as well), but until you have power you have nothing

    I am in no way wanting to pressure anyone into a vote they do not believe in. the unfortunate way this country works is you are voting for what you do not want because people are too occupied with everyday life to begin to care about politics. this is where organizing and phone banks come into play. all we can do is educate people and if you truly want to see change you must do it from within

    your voting has changed something in my 32 years alive?

  • Jul 23, 2024

    Democrats have lead to a stoppage or lowering of the war budget and murdering the people I love?

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    dont guilt shame me or lecture me with your dumb logic.

  • Jul 23, 2024
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    maxxing

    That’s obviously not true because a huge part of the Republican platform is reversing lib policies

    They want to gut social safety nets for poor people, that’s why the GOP pretends to care about the debt

    GOP wants to cut Medicare, it’s really not that complex, there isn’t a grey area on a lot of these issues

    Acting like Dems are out here all about health care and helping the poor lol.

    What has Biden done in his 4 years as president? What has Kamala done for the 4 years as VICE president? What has dems done for 2 years while being in control of the presidency, house AND Senate?

    Both parties represent the same policies in the end of the day with a very few minor differences

  • Jul 23, 2024
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    BnBallinToo

    Acting like Dems are out here all about health care and helping the poor lol.

    What has Biden done in his 4 years as president? What has Kamala done for the 4 years as VICE president? What has dems done for 2 years while being in control of the presidency, house AND Senate?

    Both parties represent the same policies in the end of the day with a very few minor differences

    again recognize they are doing this in this thread of all places.

    Lie to yourself in any other thread and I allow it but I am not allowing that s*** here

    you guys aren't even shrugging at a genocide for universal housing, universal income, healthcare

    you aren't shrugging at genocide for anything worthwhile and its genuinely pathetic that every 4 years its "let the war machine work when we are in power we can change that"

    then its "we dont have the power to change that obama cant change that what you expect"

  • Jul 23, 2024

    Y'all laugh at people who believe in santa claus but believe in these politicians every 4 years

  • Jul 23, 2024
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    OHMNI

    dont guilt shame me or lecture me with your dumb logic.

    doomer ^

    you don’t vote, you don’t recruit, you don’t care to replace your local representative, you are just here for the ride on the status quo train

    wearing anti-genocide as an aesthetic without taking the necessary steps for change is quit literally dumb logic, but you got it bro

  • Jul 23, 2024
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    OHMNI

    again recognize they are doing this in this thread of all places.

    Lie to yourself in any other thread and I allow it but I am not allowing that s*** here

    you guys aren't even shrugging at a genocide for universal housing, universal income, healthcare

    you aren't shrugging at genocide for anything worthwhile and its genuinely pathetic that every 4 years its "let the war machine work when we are in power we can change that"

    then its "we dont have the power to change that obama cant change that what you expect"

    Insane if you thought obama was gonna disassemble the war machine, this country is way too moderate to do anything but take occasional slow steps in the right direction. A true leftist regime like that will take time, Kamala then AOC and then further left over time.

    it took centuries for civil rights and trump’s project 2025 checklist has “end civil rights” so nothing is ever over obviously. Kamala seems way more pro-Palestine in public and behind closed doors from reports, I think it might be copium but still all we can expect from this broken system is small steps.

  • Jul 23, 2024
    OHMNI

    again recognize they are doing this in this thread of all places.

    Lie to yourself in any other thread and I allow it but I am not allowing that s*** here

    you guys aren't even shrugging at a genocide for universal housing, universal income, healthcare

    you aren't shrugging at genocide for anything worthwhile and its genuinely pathetic that every 4 years its "let the war machine work when we are in power we can change that"

    then its "we dont have the power to change that obama cant change that what you expect"

    Also this isn’t the genocide in Gaza thread that’s stickied btw, this is just a thread about biden and the election so I feel like it fits here idk

  • Jul 23, 2024
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    BnBallinToo

    Acting like Dems are out here all about health care and helping the poor lol.

    What has Biden done in his 4 years as president? What has Kamala done for the 4 years as VICE president? What has dems done for 2 years while being in control of the presidency, house AND Senate?

    Both parties represent the same policies in the end of the day with a very few minor differences

    If dems weren’t doing anything about healthcare then why does trump’s project 2025 checklist include cut Medicare and repeal the affordable care act?

  • Jul 23, 2024
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    maxxing

    If dems weren’t doing anything about healthcare then why does trump’s project 2025 checklist include cut Medicare and repeal the affordable care act?

    oh you are a project 2025 person yeah just stop quoting me with that dumb s*** man

  • Jul 23, 2024
    maxxing

    Insane if you thought obama was gonna disassemble the war machine, this country is way too moderate to do anything but take occasional slow steps in the right direction. A true leftist regime like that will take time, Kamala then AOC and then further left over time.

    it took centuries for civil rights and trump’s project 2025 checklist has “end civil rights” so nothing is ever over obviously. Kamala seems way more pro-Palestine in public and behind closed doors from reports, I think it might be copium but still all we can expect from this broken system is small steps.

    not about disassemble he upped drone warfare and drone striked a 16 year old american citizen.

  • Jul 23, 2024

    if you took time out your day to read project 2025 to realize the government doesnt care about you dont quote me on here

  • Jul 23, 2024
    OHMNI

    oh you are a project 2025 person yeah just stop quoting me with that dumb s*** man

    regardless of project 2025 it’s just stuff republicans do and have been doing, so my point still stands, they will cut Medicare, they will cut union and worker protections making workers less safe, they will try more Muslim bans, they will come for the marriage equality act, etc. and more f***ed up white supremacist s*** that we can’t even imagine probably

  • Jul 23, 2024
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    OHMNI

    your voting has changed something in my 32 years alive?

    voting got her in office and look at that, using her platform

  • Jul 23, 2024
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    silkyyysmoothhh

    doomer ^

    you don’t vote, you don’t recruit, you don’t care to replace your local representative, you are just here for the ride on the status quo train

    wearing anti-genocide as an aesthetic without taking the necessary steps for change is quit literally dumb logic, but you got it bro

    you are voting for someone who sends bombs to kill my family members. you could not be projecting any harder. you are a direct participant in the genocide of arabs.

    stop all this metadiscussion bullshit about what other people are doing. I'm telling you what you are doing.

  • Jul 23, 2024
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    Snowboy

    you are voting for someone who sends bombs to kill my family members. you could not be projecting any harder. you are a direct participant in the genocide of arabs.

    stop all this metadiscussion bullshit about what other people are doing. I'm telling you what you are doing.

    you are sitting on the status quo train. good bye mr irrelevant

  • Jul 23, 2024
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    Snowboy

    you are voting for someone who sends bombs to kill my family members. you could not be projecting any harder. you are a direct participant in the genocide of arabs.

    stop all this metadiscussion bullshit about what other people are doing. I'm telling you what you are doing.

    You are literally the meme

    “oh you want to make society a little better? But you participate in American war machine by being a voter. I am very smart”

    Not voting doesn’t change war, all we can do is vote to try to make things a little better

  • Jul 23, 2024
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    maxxing

    You are literally the meme

    “oh you want to make society a little better? But you participate in American war machine by being a voter. I am very smart”

    Not voting doesn’t change war, all we can do is vote to try to make things a little better

    americans truly deserve everything coming their way

  • Jul 23, 2024
    WRU

    americans truly deserve everything coming their way

    It’s not like we have a third choice, what are we supposed to do? All we can do is pick the candidate that seems more empathetic and capable of rational thought. Not voting just helps Trump.

  • Jul 23, 2024
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    "bu-but TRUMP"

    unironically, is a good take in this one particular situation.

    I don't trust Kamala to fix this situation, but I also don't trust the inadvertent accelerationist vibes, because what do you genuinely gain outside of feeling morally superior?

    And not saying I'm morally superior or smarter, I get the new aunts of what y'all are saying.

  • Jul 23, 2024
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    silkyyysmoothhh

    you are sitting on the status quo train. good bye mr irrelevant

    lmao, americans dont deserve to be alive

  • Jul 23, 2024
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    maxxing

    You are literally the meme

    “oh you want to make society a little better? But you participate in American war machine by being a voter. I am very smart”

    Not voting doesn’t change war, all we can do is vote to try to make things a little better

    That’s not what that meme means at all lmao

    It’s referring to people like yourself actually

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