They don’t need Israel to penetrate the Arab world with capitalism. The Gulf states are already proof of that

The reality is with me and you as Palestinians, is that when the time comes that Israel collapses Palestine will probably be very much damaged during that implosion and all the aftermath behind it

It will be the very rich Palestinians abroad who come and buy all the land. Capitalism will take hold there very quickly

It’s already there, an underbelly of elites waiting for the day to come

we will see. I personally dont believe their is enough of a "palestinian bourgeoisie" to turn a future free palestine into a neocolony. and if their is through what mechanisms? proletarian revolution is not off the menu yet.

Oh trust me there is when I was in Ramallah. I came across four separate billionaires. They’re all very widely known as corrupt pieces of s***. Mouhib was one(he helped finance the occupation walls construction)

That’s also not getting into all of the corrupt PLO officials either who have hundreds of millions of dollars in capital overseas and are waiting for the day they go back

I have a few of them in my extended family as I’m disgusted to admit

Sab moving like a fed gathering evidence dailty to strike the hammer

There’s literally so many insanely rich Fatah leaders in Egypt and UAE waiting for the opportunity to present itself to return with all their money behind them

Did that mf got banned ?

Yup him and that racist bum groovy

the palestinians who fight on the front lines in freeing our country will decide if these neocolonial stooges will get to keep their s***

Grovy went to the extremes with that post but atleast he could argue that mf seems that he came here just for some rage bait

Unfortunately, I don’t think they’re gonna have a option. My friend most of our people are going to be completely decimated and very tired by the time we get our liberation.

If these people came as they’ve always done in the past, offering bribes and advantageous positions in a new government through their wealth and influence, many take it

You still have many people all over the West Bank that follow Mohammad Dahlan

u a Lil Uzi stan in 2025

f*** u man

I consider groovy worse when he got to the point of claiming I use my Palestinian family’s suffering and my losses as a debate point

That s*** was

I'm not saying it won't happen. I'm saying it shouldn't happen and will have to be the site of intense political struggle following the revolution against zionism. I won't condemn palestinians to make the same mistakes as other 20th century postcolonial regimes and turn our country into a "developmental state" afloat on IMF and World Bank debt.

thankfully I have faith that won't happen

You clearly didn’t come here to learn but rather to incite some s***ty flame war

Omg

I appreciate your optimism and it’s needed, especially when we get to that point

This sounds like the exact same thing planned and supported by the Biden administration but with an American sticker slapped on top of it

Which, honestly, is more truthful to the whole situation

say the word snowboy, you got a soulja overseas ready

black americans never been anything but indispensable to the palestinian cause I grew up around Uhuru members who made freeing palestine their life goal.

you can't honestly tell me these people ain't anything more than stolen profile pics, no sir.

What's the right thing lmfao

opposing your own imperialists by any means necessary

necessarily this would mean delinking yourself from the imperialist Democratic National Convention

I’m making the assumption that a democratic expression of social order is your priority since that is what I’m basing my “rights and wrongs” off of as well

Politics is quite literally about the structure of, and dynamics of, power between socialized groups of interest. America’s electoral system is simply an expression of this and not the foundational reference for ideal politics.

If we understand electoralism under capitalism as an ideologically motivated political system to appease the powerless (poor non-owning class) while the powerful (rich owning class) occupy the actual, material organs of power (through the power of finance and ownership of economy, two qualities of the capitalist), then we can understand that supporting current electoralism is not important to what our actual political agenda should be if democracy is our priority.

So what is our primary social agenda? It is first important to recognize that our political system does not exist outside of theory, and that it must be constructed. It especially must be constructed outside of the electoral system which is an entrenched place of financial class. Therefore we should begin the organization of the working class into a seperate political system that can democratically challenge the hierarchies that have poisoned America’s government.

This rhetoric should extend to opposing the wealthy owning class who seek to marginalize us, and also extend to supporting and uniting with the worldwide working class who also experience forms of oppression from the worldwide owning class.

America’s voting system and bipartisan landscape will not save us. It will not solve our problems. It will not mitigate our problems. It can barely even delay our problems. Those who occupy the powerful positions of this system reap the benefits of these issues while we get the short end of the stick. F*** them.