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    CKL TML

    "Manufactured and marketed by Republic"

    I dont think thats the same as a "licensing" deal
    Could see him owning 50% of his masters and 50% universal

    @safe what do u think?

    Because it says "Manufactured by"?

    I'm not saying he has a licensing deal, it's a distribution deal. I'm saying that the principle owner is the first person credited.

  • CKL TML 🌺
    Sep 17, 2020
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    MiguelMeyerz

    Because it says "Manufactured by"?

    I'm not saying he has a licensing deal, it's a distribution deal. I'm saying that the principle owner is the first person credited.

    I dont think abel has as much as freedom as we think tbh. He did an interview before saying that his label wouldnt allow the hills to be the single but that there was 1 higher up who okay'd it because he likes dark abel lol

  • Sep 17, 2020
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    MiguelMeyerz

    Just to be clear I'm not saying all artists should be independent. Just that the deals don't have to be one sided if you come in with some heat.

    Like Youngboy could partner with a label and get more marketing rn without giving up ownership.

    Yeah.. "right now". But idk 5 years ago? Without all the success? Look. I offer you a 2 million man.. you can help your family and friends who have stuggled all their lives, you can make music, more money and enjoy life like never before, get away from that everyday struggle and hustle. Now go tell your friends and family that you didnt accept the offer and decided to go indie instead knowing that you probably never see that kind of money again and your sister has to go to mcdonalds, tomorrow she has that a job interview there you know and your uncle loses his car next month because he's out of work rn. Thats the reality, no? Btw Sry english is like my 3rd language

  • Sep 17, 2020
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    CKL TML

    I dont think abel has as much as freedom as we think tbh. He did an interview before saying that his label wouldnt allow the hills to be the single but that there was 1 higher up who okay'd it because he likes dark abel lol

    Sure. A licensing deal probably gives you more freedom than an M&D. But I was only talking about who owns the masters. And I'm guessing that Weeknd owns his.

  • Unity 💯
    Sep 17, 2020

    Your an idiot

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    if ur a broke artist living in ur moms basement and u just get offered 500k advance from a label, how the f*** would u say no, u gonna go tell ur mom that u just rejected a 500k advance, these labels are predatory as f*** and now know to manipulate young poor artist, Its dumb to blame artist for this s***.

  • This is like saying you don't technically need to play college football to go to the nfl

  • CKL TML 🌺
    Sep 17, 2020
    MiguelMeyerz

    Sure. A licensing deal probably gives you more freedom than an M&D. But I was only talking about who owns the masters. And I'm guessing that Weeknd owns his.

    I hope so tbh. He did have a lot of leverage before signing and so many offers

  • Sep 17, 2020
    shadowboxing

    Yeah.. "right now". But idk 5 years ago? Without all the success? Look. I offer you a 2 million man.. you can help your family and friends who have stuggled all their lives, you can make music, more money and enjoy life like never before, get away from that everyday struggle and hustle. Now go tell your friends and family that you didnt accept the offer and decided to go indie instead knowing that you probably never see that kind of money again and your sister has to go to mcdonalds, tomorrow she has that a job interview there you know and your uncle loses his car next month because he's out of work rn. Thats the reality, no? Btw Sry english is like my 3rd language

    Valid point.

    Assume you're like Uzi or Thugger. Not like Lil Pump. If you are talented you can take less money in advance.

    You could get 1M and options on 3 albums instead of 2M and options on 5 for example.

    I'm not saying "don't take any deal"

  • Sep 17, 2020

    I kinda just proved everything you said was wrong in my previous post.

  • Sep 17, 2020
    DZE

    Yall dummies really think this is only a rap related thing huh

    Like rich hipster singer songwriters don't sign s***ty label deals

    In general no matter what industry your in if your don’t read contracts or get somebody to read it for you then your an idiot.

  • Sep 17, 2020
    MiguelMeyerz

    True but even in 2011, that was excellent foresight by him.

    If the label is the one that manufactured your career, then that's different. Whatever gets signed is what it is.

    2011????? This been known. Prince wrote slave on his face for a reason. Michael Jackson bought the Beatles masters and own his own

  • Sep 17, 2020
    nerdy

    you're*

  • Sep 17, 2020
    MiguelMeyerz

    Just look up his albums on streaming services.

    He has a distro and marketing deal with Republic but the principle owner is The Weeknd XO. Same way w/ Drake now the owner is 'OVO' with licensing to Republic.

    Drake only owns his last two albums though

  • Sep 17, 2020
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    calling someone an idiot then messing up grammar

  • Sep 17, 2020
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    you are = you're

    your = possessive (this is your thread where you f***ed the grammar up)

  • Sep 17, 2020
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    sponge bob

    calling someone an idiot then messing up grammar

    Who gives a f***. Nigga you ain’t smart don’t pretend to be something your not

  • Sep 17, 2020
    THACKSTON

    Who gives a f***. Nigga you ain’t smart don’t pretend to be something your not

    I don't gotta pretend s*** lol

  • Sep 17, 2020
    A Mad Ass Nigga

    But at the same time they do target young black kids who’s struggling. Of course they’re going to be thirsty to sign whatever they throw at them. They’re desperate to help their fam eat and elevate.

  • Sep 17, 2020
    CKL TML

    "Manufactured and marketed by Republic"

    I dont think thats the same as a "licensing" deal
    Could see him owning 50% of his masters and 50% universal

    @safe what do u think?

    The Weeknd got a great deal according to his management

    No evidence either way but I would assume XO own the masters and he has some large stake in XO meaning he has a good stake in his masters

    He’s definitely not doing a pure licensing deal though

  • Sep 17, 2020

    It’s important for people to keep talking about this because so many artists don’t even know what masters or publishing means

    You don’t necessarily need to own them to be successful but if you don’t understand the value of them you’re gonna get f***ed contract wise

  • FREE 💜
    Sep 17, 2020

    The amount of threads to say "I don't feel nad" is so weird

  • FREE 💜
    Sep 17, 2020

    Y'all really hate these people in gonna make a thread on this tbh it's two things I've gathered from this thread and the other one.

  • Sep 17, 2020
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    sponge bob

    you are = you're

    your = possessive (this is your thread where you f***ed the grammar up)

  • Sep 17, 2020
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    Wonder if Kendrick owns the TPAB masters.