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  • Updated Sep 9, 2022

    Representative Windhorst listed some of the offenses that won’t involve detention before going to trial.

    “So there are a whole list of violent crimes, burglary, robbery, arson, kidnapping, almost all d*** offenses even d*** distribution, DUI offenses, even DUI offenses that are involving a fatality, that do not qualify for detention under the Illinois Safety Act. To me, that’s going to mean a lot of individuals are committing crimes and being released immediately, if not within a couple of days,” he said.

    Illinois is the first state in the country to abolish cash bail.

    "Today, I can arrest him if you sign a complaint for trespassing," Briley said. "January 1st, I'm not going to be able to do that. The law says I have to write him a ticket and leave."

    kmov.com/2022/09/08/illinois-set-eliminate-cash-bail-2023

    It's over for Chicago

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    The way American law works is fundamentally untenable

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    Pretty much letting everyone know they make more money from the free labor they get from convicts than they do from people paying bail.

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    Intimidation? TF?

  • Sep 9, 2022
    NDL DOOM

    Intimidation? TF?

    We arresting cops

  • Sep 9, 2022

    what is the thought process here so if someone's trespassing, police just give em some receipts and say good luck?

  • Sep 9, 2022
    NDL DOOM

    Pretty much letting everyone know they make more money from the free labor they get from convicts than they do from people paying bail.

    Cops are still going to shoot niggas somehow

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    Wait so these offenses don’t require someone being detained?

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    Clippin Jimmy

    Wait so these offenses don’t require someone being detained?

    the graphic i think is kinda misleading. it's likely that those offenses will end up resulting in ppl getting released tho. but that won't always be the case. from what i'm reading basically if police detain someone they got 48 hours to explain to the state Why they should be kept in detention instead of be let out for free til their court date. so it's like basically do the majority of ur investigation in 48 hours. whether or not that's a realistic expectation tho i rly dunno, unless the cops already got literally everythin on body cam.

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    Good, either charge them with a crime and hold them or let them go. The addition of money into the criminal justice system is evil. You’re telling me 2 people can commit the same crime but one gets let go cause they have more money??? F*** off with that.

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    Sep 9, 2022
    frenchpress

    the graphic i think is kinda misleading. it's likely that those offenses will end up resulting in ppl getting released tho. but that won't always be the case. from what i'm reading basically if police detain someone they got 48 hours to explain to the state Why they should be kept in detention instead of be let out for free til their court date. so it's like basically do the majority of ur investigation in 48 hours. whether or not that's a realistic expectation tho i rly dunno, unless the cops already got literally everythin on body cam.

    yeah im not an expert but that graphic does seem kinda sketch

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    Kidnapping

  • Vqbro

    you literally posted a misleading graph.

  • Level 5 Goblin

    Good, either charge them with a crime and hold them or let them go. The addition of money into the criminal justice system is evil. You’re telling me 2 people can commit the same crime but one gets let go cause they have more money??? F*** off with that.

  • Sep 9, 2022

    Cops dont do s*** these days anyway

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    americana

    The way American law works is fundamentally untenable

    are you for or against bail?

  • NDL DOOM

    Pretty much letting everyone know they make more money from the free labor they get from convicts than they do from people paying bail.

    what

  • Level 5 Goblin

    Good, either charge them with a crime and hold them or let them go. The addition of money into the criminal justice system is evil. You’re telling me 2 people can commit the same crime but one gets let go cause they have more money??? F*** off with that.

    i feel like holding people before trial is wrong unless the act was on camera or caught in the action. Thats just my opinion though.

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    Dedication 666

    are you for or against bail?

    I’m against bail

  • Sep 11, 2022

    that’s… not what ending cash bail is…?

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    the idea is this, I think

    the graphic of the offenses that won't require cash bail anymore has all the offenses where the guy would usually get bailed out anyway. This won't change who does and doesn't get out on bail.

    BUT what it will do is remove bail as a financial mechanism. I know people rob and do f***ed s*** all the time to pay someone else's bail. Now there's less incentive for that. Also, govt getting paid to arrest more people means more people get arrested, regardless of innocence. So this might help there too.

    I know this seems counter intuitive, it seems like the right move is to beef up police and go harder on crime, but that's not very effective, I mean has Chicago improved much? I'm not saying doing something else will definitely be better, but it's worth a shot no?

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    fashion killa

    the idea is this, I think

    the graphic of the offenses that won't require cash bail anymore has all the offenses where the guy would usually get bailed out anyway. This won't change who does and doesn't get out on bail.

    BUT what it will do is remove bail as a financial mechanism. I know people rob and do f***ed s*** all the time to pay someone else's bail. Now there's less incentive for that. Also, govt getting paid to arrest more people means more people get arrested, regardless of innocence. So this might help there too.

    I know this seems counter intuitive, it seems like the right move is to beef up police and go harder on crime, but that's not very effective, I mean has Chicago improved much? I'm not saying doing something else will definitely be better, but it's worth a shot no?

    Kinda makes sense when you put it that way. Only time will tell.

    I think there are other motives at play when officers are conducting an arrest than money, though. We'll see if it makes a difference.

  • Sep 12, 2022
    fashion killa

    the idea is this, I think

    the graphic of the offenses that won't require cash bail anymore has all the offenses where the guy would usually get bailed out anyway. This won't change who does and doesn't get out on bail.

    BUT what it will do is remove bail as a financial mechanism. I know people rob and do f***ed s*** all the time to pay someone else's bail. Now there's less incentive for that. Also, govt getting paid to arrest more people means more people get arrested, regardless of innocence. So this might help there too.

    I know this seems counter intuitive, it seems like the right move is to beef up police and go harder on crime, but that's not very effective, I mean has Chicago improved much? I'm not saying doing something else will definitely be better, but it's worth a shot no?

    U n the poster above

  • Sep 13, 2022

    Highly recommend watching this for those of us that just read the headlines. As a Chicago native the way the media is spun this s*** is sooo nasty, especially the alleged progressive/liberal white media.