Nov 24, 2025·2 replies
TheFaderHow is he not lmao
He’s great at wordplay
Can flow on literally any production
Cadence is pristine
Quotables for days
The only thing I’d knock him for is that in recent years he’s become too reliant on simple similes for punchlines
And you telling me he can rap circles with a nigga like Talib on his best day???
Nov 24, 2025eat a d*** and doggybag the balls
Nov 24, 2025·1 replyKeeAite, if I take in Drake first 3 years (2006-2008), he’s a B- rapper.
2009-15, he’s B+
2016-present: B to C.
Drake has never had lines that made me drop my seat like Lupe
Ohhhhh i get it
You just dont like the nigga i get it
Nov 24, 2025·1 reply
Smacked VoodooDrake being at a B in terms of rap ability seems...extremely fair?
I don't know man lol when I'm thinking A-A+ rappers I'm thinking of niggas like: Sean Price, Big Boi, Andre 3000, Jay Z, DOOM, Nas, Scarface, Jay Z, Mos Def, Ghostface, Phife Dawg.
And if we're talking more modern/contemporary: Danny Brown, Conway, Earl, Action Bronson, Boldy James, Freddie Gibbs, Lupe, Blu, Ab-Soul, Big KRIT, Mick Jenkins
Drake ain't rapping better than any of these niggas on a technical level. Sure he's a better song maker. But we talking straight up raps? Drake ain't touching these bonafide A+ cats with them basic ass bars man knock it off lmao
I love Tribe they’re my fav group oat but you rank Phife that high?
Not even tryna disagree thats just interesting
- Nov 24, 2025insertcoolnamehere
Ohhhhh i get it
You just dont like the nigga i get it
That and the nigga not that good
- Nov 24, 2025·2 repliesKee
This is not recency bias. Drake has never been a A range rapper. You guys are just trying to lower the bar dude. I never see y’all give this much love to niggas like Wale or even Cole.
Because Cole is the worst of the big 3
- OPNov 24, 2025·1 replySmacked Voodoo
Drake being at a B in terms of rap ability seems...extremely fair?
I don't know man lol when I'm thinking A-A+ rappers I'm thinking of niggas like: Sean Price, Big Boi, Andre 3000, Jay Z, DOOM, Nas, Scarface, Jay Z, Mos Def, Ghostface, Phife Dawg.
And if we're talking more modern/contemporary: Danny Brown, Conway, Earl, Action Bronson, Boldy James, Freddie Gibbs, Lupe, Blu, Ab-Soul, Big KRIT, Mick Jenkins
Drake ain't rapping better than any of these niggas on a technical level. Sure he's a better song maker. But we talking straight up raps? Drake ain't touching these bonafide A+ cats with them basic ass bars man knock it off lmao
I feel like y’all are a little too biased towards the rappity-rap multi-syllables rappers and/or the guys who speak on some kind of social topic
Drake doesn’t do either of those but he’s still an A-tier MC
- Nov 24, 2025Kee
And you telling me he can rap circles with a nigga like Talib on his best day???
Talib???
Nov 24, 2025·1 replyTheFaderAnd yet the production is still the highlight
If those albums were average production wise they wouldn’t be regarded as classics, he’s not a Nas-type
when I talk to people about Kanye, I’m usually talking about the songs and its lyrics, only online is the focus ever on the production
most people do not have the vocabulary to discuss production so the lyrics were definitely a main draw lmfao
- Nov 24, 2025
Outta all people what made u go w talib lmao
- OPNov 24, 2025·2 repliesKee
And you telling me he can rap circles with a nigga like Talib on his best day???
Talib is S-tier lmao what are we doing
- Nov 24, 2025TheFader
Talib is S-tier lmao what are we doing
Man if i speak
- Nov 24, 2025·1 replyinsertcoolnamehere
Because Cole is the worst of the big 3
Notice you didn’t talk about Wale tho
- Nov 24, 2025insertcoolnamehere
Because Cole is the worst of the big 3
Wake it up
Nov 24, 2025did this thread need 12 pages
drake clears on every conceivable level its genuinely major league vs little league
responding is so below him it would automatically gain an aura loss
- Nov 24, 2025
S Tier to me is like Lupe Fiasco
- Nov 24, 2025·2 repliesTheFader
Talib is S-tier lmao what are we doing
Real black star fans agreed with what ye said bout talib for a reason lil bro
- OPNov 24, 2025Valentine
when I talk to people about Kanye, I’m usually talking about the songs and its lyrics, only online is the focus ever on the production
most people do not have the vocabulary to discuss production so the lyrics were definitely a main draw lmfao
Idk you might be in a minority
Like yes those albums are great lyrically not denying that, but it’s not the main draw
Same way that the visuals aren’t the main draw in a Tarantino flick, but rather it’s the characters & heavy dialogue scenes. Yes the visuals are still great, but what makes a Tarantino film a Tarantino film is the dialogue
- Nov 24, 2025insertcoolnamehere
Real black star fans agreed with what ye said bout talib for a reason lil bro
Yeah these niggas caught me way off guard w Talib lmao
- OPNov 24, 2025·1 replyinsertcoolnamehere
Real black star fans agreed with what ye said bout talib for a reason lil bro
I mean… okay? Lmao opinions are a thing
- Nov 24, 2025Kee
Notice you didn’t talk about Wale tho
Wale an underrated lyricist but charisma (you gotta rank the whole package) lacks.
More About Nothing went viral in my stolen iPod classic dont play me like that
- Nov 24, 2025·1 replymr get dough
I love Tribe they’re my fav group oat but you rank Phife that high?
Not even tryna disagree thats just interesting
Phife to rap is what Big Daddy Kane and Rakim were to rap. Laid out a whole new kinda style and creativity to the genre that paved the way for future rappers.
Then I take into account Phife's ability to flow, his wordplay, and storytelling ability and yeah he's that high up there to me
- OPNov 24, 2025·1 replyKee
This is not recency bias. Drake has never been a A range rapper. You guys are just trying to lower the bar dude. I never see y’all give this much love to niggas like Wale or even Cole.
Cole gets gassed every single day by the rap community man what
- Nov 24, 2025Smacked Voodoo
Phife to rap is what Big Daddy Kane and Rakim were to rap. Laid out a whole new kinda style and creativity to the genre that paved the way for future rappers.
Then I take into account Phife's ability to flow, his wordplay, and storytelling ability and yeah he's that high up there to me
I respect that
Again Tribe my fav group, I know they werent like the most technical lyricist but they made the best music and all their lyrics resonated hard
- Nov 24, 2025·1 replyTheFader
Cole gets gassed every single day by the rap community man what
Literally one of the most overrated rappers oat and most definitely not better than Drake lmao