I got FAFSA grants to attend a 4 year CUNY/public school for free so it confuses me when people who seem like they’d qualify for need based grants say they can’t afford to go. Are public schools significantly more expensive in other states? Or do a lot of people just not learn about Pell grants?
Most states don't have public school systems like SUNY or California
And if they do aren't giving the aid like you see
College is out of reach for most Americans in general because the US is a fascist s***hole
It depends on so much more than just the "poor" people part. Location is way bigger.
Guy I work with gets double what he needs off the pell grant for school alone. If he wasn't living under his families roof he'd still have money left over after rent and bills. If you do not know what that means, it never needs to be returned and is quite literally free money.
He just goes to community college via the bus but could even do 100% online. Many in this city do
Another couple cities here have total free community college if you live in the city long enough. Also associates at the above college are 100% free after you turn 26 and live in the county
It's getting better.
The s***ty stuff is when you're not "poor" aka living off food stamps, and fasfa says f*** u ur parents are loaded they need to pay but to them that's "socialism" and you get told to work as a waiter to pay tuition on tips like they did in the early 90s
my interpretation is that the cost isn't what's keeping poor people from higher education. to your point there are a lot of scholarships, grants, and overall aid to help people in bad financial situations to the point that they just about can go for free.
unfortunately it's oftentimes other circumstances that are associated with poverty that lead to them not pursuing higher education whether that be having to work immediately to support their family or one of the many negative things that come along with growing up in such an environment.
I think the cost of college most negatively impacts the american middle class whose families make too much for them to qualify for necessary aid but too little to support their kids financially through college.
Everybody doesn't get the same amount of federal aid. Colleges cost different. Does the individual commute daily or do they need to pay for room and board? So many factors need to be considered.
not how it is in every state for universities, it’s def easier to get in free at a community college in most states though
Most schools in urban areas are stupid underfunded. Their main priority is just getting you to graduate. There isn't investment on behalf of the school for most students just like the top 1-10 kids in the class. Couple that with parents living paycheck to paycheck and you get kids not thinking college is a viable option unless you're an athlete
Yea i skipped college after hs a decade ago cuz we were broke i didnt want any loans in my name
Kinda sad i make more than my friends who went to college and own a house before them
Trade schools are goated
They'll gladly straddle you with debt. I wouldn't call that affording
If you fully qualify as "poor" you can get tons of money off the pell grant which I believe is a national thing not state wide
my interpretation is that the cost isn't what's keeping poor people from higher education. to your point there are a lot of scholarships, grants, and overall aid to help people in bad financial situations to the point that they just about can go for free.
unfortunately it's oftentimes other circumstances that are associated with poverty that lead to them not pursuing higher education whether that be having to work immediately to support their family or one of the many negative things that come along with growing up in such an environment.
I think the cost of college most negatively impacts the american middle class whose families make too much for them to qualify for necessary aid but too little to support their kids financially through college.
to a t
Yeah the cost of living
Getting loans isn’t tough
It’s managing the rest of your life while also going to college can be tough especially if you don’t live at home
Most states don't have public school systems like SUNY or California
And if they do aren't giving the aid like you see
yeah, basically this. I've lived in a state where I was forced to take out a lot of loans to go to school and I've lived in a state where I was literally only paying $12 out of pocket per semester because the grants were so generous.
i am dealing it very much so right now second hand. and yea it’s just the time really. grants and scholarships are out there for any level of schooling. but the second they have to do schooling and work to stay afloat, it’s impossible. or only possible for pure grinders i guess.