was thinking about this after the whole Ja s*** and honestly, it pretty obviously is

my question comes from looking a little more into the Ja s*** and realizing, that suspension didn’t mean s***

here’s his sister graduation party 2 months after the suspension was announced. the rapper is currently sitting awaiting trial for murder charges

why does there not seem to be an acceptance of responsibility of your platform and understanding that the celebration of this culture continues to hurt hiphop?

In America *

overseas drill music exists too (and actually tends to be the most popular version of rap with the young generations) with finger guns

didn't know fingers were guns my bad

imagery brother come on don’t be a hard ass, we having a discussion. you doing the ktt s*** lmao

It probably is. I'm just so over these XYZ Crashout rappers, like that s*** has been ran into the ground

Entertainment in general, yes

I'm having the discussion bro, gun culture as a whole is extremely weighted to America, that was my answer then you deflected to drill rappers in other countries waving their hands.

Hollywood, NRA, 2nd Amendment, Conservatives, permitted citizens, Gangs, Police etc. Gun culture is a massive part of USA it's not just limited to hip hop.

Whether it's "too" heavily accepted can't really be answered since it's already been engrained in the country for decades before the genre existed.

In Ja's case, of course that suspension didn't mean anything. He got suspended for a gun shaped lighter. He was just being immature, or the new theory is he's trying to get out of Memphis

But overall the guns aren't the problem

yes but the imagery being extended to a global scale and accepted by the youth in said mainstream cultures en masse, even if the people may not engage in such practices, further establishes the impact of said gun culture not just within the United States to where the violent energy that comes from said gun culture recreates itself in other facets (gangs, knives instead of guns, beefs, etc.)

where before the same cultures would usually engage in boss/money talk, women or just the country in general. but now we introducing a new very popular imagery with the youth on global scale via music that brings a lot with it

"gun culture" isn't really a thing. guns proliferate in white communities in the USA for the specific purpose of controlling minorities through klan violence (a la zimmerman).

Idk what this thread means

Gun culture is accepted heavily in many aspects not just hip-hop, even within music such as rock and country

It's a literal cultural thing

And in the instance of hip-hop - guns in general are seen as a source of power, an evening playing field and a answer to problems - so a genre filled with many misfortunes and aggression will obviously latch onto something that is so instant in being power and an answer or an equalizer to their terrible conditions and circumstances

Just like the poor "trailer park trash" whites in older country music

Guns are seen as an idol and an answer for "the weak" and less fortunate - in this regard

I just mean in recent times brother

compare rapper deaths in the last 10 years to a decade before that as a starting point

like even a rapper in f***ing India got killed in a gang war shooting, I’ve never heard of that before

As a New Yorker i get jealous of everybody gun collection on youtube

These fingers got bodies.

ya’ll really act like their version of gun ain’t knives ight man. I’m talking bout the energy and how accepted it’s become

Just literally 2 hours ago @op

Summary: “I’m not vulnerable, so leave me alone” .. we’re just fancy animals.

collect nerf

That doesn't explain anything

People have been dying in rap by the dozens before the last 10 years - gun violence and other means

This isn't new in this case, just a continuation

Now why are their deaths might be the question? Well it's obvious, most of these rappers are from these areas where this violence actually exists. It has nothing to do with Rap overall, but the circumstances that created Rap. This violence and "obsession" existed before Rap and in other genres. But Rap itself sees the most deaths because a lot of the people of the genre are still stuck or have ties to those situations.

And another common question this usually leads to is "well why do they talk about it - which again has to do with the environment that is already there. People of these environments aren't going to sing about or represent imagery of flowers and good health care. They're talking about and representing what they're doing and/or what is actually going on around them, and that is beyond the scope of Rap itself.

And don't get it twisted. Niggas was dying and shooting and beating each other up during the jazz and funk and disco days that also lead to blaxpolation films and the such with gun and pimp and "luxury" imagery.

You can say gun culture is too accepted in america across the board

But as to the video, I don't really see the point is you're making there. Ja's sister had a rapper she likes perform at her party or something? Are you saying Ja's sister can't listen to people who rap about guns or is in the streets

I don't really get where you going with that

that family got some strong ass genes

Ja situation is stupid and opens up a lot of other convos about what many niggas idolize being a black child after 2000 no matter what their upbringing is

but we shouldn’t be reaching like this where the CHARGES of a RAPPER performing at his SISTERS BDAY PARTY lmaooo has any connection to that situation. My boy this a super reach lol