Is The Most Popular Genre Right Now Cool? More At 11

You’re just saying this because they’re not hot now, rock was always pretty much built on clones, 70’s it was all about that hippie s*** for everybody, 80’s was hair metal with all the bands looking the same, sounding the same and talking bout the same things, then came 90’s and it was all grunge, that scene was oversaturated with clones if any

In the 90's you had to defeat like 100 ppl in a freestyle battle before you could start thinking of making it as a rapper

Now you can just buy the same type of beat that everyone else uses and copy their style, flow, lingo, rhymes.. limit your personality to drinking lean and f***ing someone's b****, sometimes become "relatable" by pretending to be sad about a b**** too, write some lazy punchlines with "aye!" adlibs and if you already have some social media clout from posting memes then tweens will eat it up

It’s all f***ing marketing, rock rap all of it, it doesn’t f***ing mayger

is being popular the same as being cool?

tbh

Not really no, Punk rock was a thing and that was based on people not playing properly, and everybody can sing to some point, obviously it’s harder to play instruments and to sing than it’s to rap, but playing instruments and knowing how to rap is far more impressive imo, for example i’m a huge ass Kurt Cobain fan, always been but he was average quitarist, and not a very technical singer, so what made it harder for him?

That's why I'm talking about now not then. S*** is dead and bands have to stand out nowadays. The aesthetics and sound are just fire/cooler than most things that are separating rappers from each other now. Them being hot or not doesnt affect how I feel about this. I like what I like

Bro. I can go download a beat off YouTube and start rapping over it in less than 5 minutes probably and call it “rap”.

06-07 Jim Jones & Juelz Santana the closest we got to authentic rockstar style

Lmao they were definitely trendsetters

Kurt had an amazing voice that was more powerful than most "technical" singers and he was an incredible songwriter. He still needed a whole backing band that matches his energy. At first Nirvana performed in the kitchen in front of like 8 people. It took them a few years of grindin' to blow up (and they never even intended to btw).

Now see Bhad Bhabie, she doesn't even write s*** and has millions of views.

Yeah you’re not getting my point at all, rock is dead cause they beat it to dead, s*** was the biggest genre for 50 years, that’s why rock acts ain’t popping now, die hard strictly rock fans stay listening to those old albums cause the rock market got so oversatured that the genre stopped developing further and to this day it’s almost impossible to do a strictly rock album that sounds fresh

Ok i get what you're saying but what I'm saying is that rap is currently going through those same things right now. S*** is getting boring and everyone sounds and looks the same for the most part. There are bands out right now that I personally think are far more interesting and cool than than any rapper out right now.(even the ones who have found their own lane) Sound, aesthetic and s*** like that all play into that for me. I think you're turning OP's and my original point into an entirely different argument. The thread is about what's "cool" and that's based on individual opinions. Not on what you're getting into

Rap is more technology based than rock

But at least rock fans aren't as annoying as rap fans in the sense that they can just enjoy the same old classics for decades without complaining. Rap fans don't get new projects for a week and start whining that they're bored.

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I get that, but how is that any different from how say Madison Beer or Bieber blew up? They sang covers on youtube and got signed, pretty much the same thing.

Nirvana also pretty much started to blow up the moment they started to go as Nirvana, they even did a european tour after Bleach with band called TAD, that was before Dave Grohl even joined them, they started recording and working on Nevermind at the start of 1990 and by 1991 they we’re number on MTV, so they blew up real fast compared to most artists at that day and age.

also Cobain wasn’t much of a lyricist per se, as he gave pretty much zero f***s about the lyrics, writing most of his lyrics in 15min before recording them, and most of his lyrics were just parts of his different poems put together, he was talented poet but as a lyricist he was lazy, and his image as a great lyricist comes more from his delivery and the meaning people put behind the lyrics cause his lyrics themselves very rarely make any sense if you just read them and they had no deeper meaning to him besides few songs.

no, expect a genre swing next decade

So it's not cool.

Songwriting is more than just lyrics, it includes composing, structuring, etc (he was a great lyricist as well imo, underrated in that regard, but I don't feel like discussing that rn). Dude was a f***ing beast tbh, pretty much every song on Nevermind and In Utero was phenomenal, in the sense that he made underground music sound so accessible. Bleach had some great tracks as well, so did Incesticide.

A lot of rock bands shied away from rocking or tried to play around it bc they were pussies or wanted to be clever, Nirvana was badass bc they just did what they were supposed to, which means to ROCK. They found the perfect sound that was neither too heavy nor too poppy. Amazing quiet/loud and fast/slow transitions that Kurt obviously learned from the Pixies, he was a music head and listened to everything from Howlin' Wolf to Public Enemy to the Beatles to the Melvins, pretty much had 4 or 5 decades of music culture in him. A lot of bands tried to emulate Nirvana following Kurt's death and came short.

Bieber has had a whole machine behind him his whole career, maintaining his image, marketing him and writing/producing his songs. Tbh he's a pop artist so his image comes before all, but as far as his last album goes the prod was carrying him throughout, the angelic voice that he had as a teen has become nasally as soon as puberty started kicking in.

I absolutely love In Utero, but it’s by far their weakest album still for me in a weird way, you kinda can tell from the way that Kurt spoke about the album, that it was supposed to be more melodic and poppy, in that Nevermind lane but Kurt kinda ”de-prettyfied” it by making some of the songs like ”Milk it” and ”Scentless Apprentice” which are excellent songs, but there is a part of me that would have prefered ”In Utero” being more of that Nevermind style or maybe even entirely ”Pennyroyal tea” or ”All Apologies” type, cause this time Kurt had said that he had focused on the lyrics for this album more than the ones before, and the album themes fit his situation but some of the songs felt out of place

Does the pope s*** in his hat

Yes, put it’s exploding.
MAX 10 years and it’s as dead as rock and everybody will move on and try to become an author.
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