Aug 16, 2025·1 reply
insertcoolnamehereLiterally not that different from
I’ll say this about the Beastie Boys, they didn’t respect Hip Hop at first cause they didn’t understand the genre. They grew with the genre and created a vision for it with Paul’s Boutique. I kind of feel like their pioneers of Alternative Rap, and they cemented themselves with ill Communication.
I think Mac Miller was on this path too, motherfuckers like 69 and ole dude are a bit different. Their total imitators
Aug 16, 2025·1 reply
internet buddyDrake was absolutely a hip hop reset. So Far Gone and Take Care turned the genre inside out.
Nah that credit goes to 808s and Heartbreak
- Aug 16, 2025·3 repliesinsertcoolnamehere
Not s***ting just acknowledging the borrowing of “aesthetics” has been a theme since the 80s.
Like hip hop begging for rock/punk acceptance?
- Aug 16, 2025·1 replyinternet buddy
Like hip hop begging for rock/punk acceptance?
Rock/punk is black so ya point?
I aint really concerned with Run DMC wanting to dress like the fonz
- Aug 16, 2025·1 replyBlack Smoke
Nah that credit goes to 808s and Heartbreak
808s was a synthpop album
Drake took that melodic style and applied it to actual bars - Aug 16, 2025
009I really think we place too much blame on the people for this s***. Obviously there's things we just shouldn't let slide but considering hiphop became a product almost as soon as it became a thing it shouldn't be surprising that the people with the most purchasing power are the main audience for the product.
it's just the natural cycle of underground > growth > mainstream breakthrough > oversaturation > decline
- Aug 16, 2025·1 replyinternet buddy
50 Cent sold vitamin water
And why did people buy vitamin water when it first dropped?
- Aug 16, 2025gnarlynasty
And why did people buy vitamin water when it first dropped?
Personally, that s*** was quenching asf after grade school
- Aug 16, 2025·1 replyinternet buddy
808s was a synthpop album
Drake took that melodic style and applied it to actual barsHeartless is a rap/r&b song dawg
- Aug 16, 2025·1 replyinsertcoolnamehere
Rock/punk is black so ya point?
I aint really concerned with Run DMC wanting to dress like the fonz
Punk is as white as white can be, bro
- Aug 16, 2025·1 replyinternet buddy
Like hip hop begging for rock/punk acceptance?
Bugging
- Aug 16, 2025·1 replyFree YoungBoy
Bugging
Carti?
Kanye since Yeezus? - Aug 16, 2025·1 replyinsertcoolnamehere
Heartless is a rap/r&b song dawg
Pop rap at most
- Aug 16, 2025·2 repliesinternet buddy
Punk is as white as white can be, bro
Ramones cosigned these niggas was first. Take it up with them not me
- Aug 16, 2025·1 reply!https://youtu.be/KLN7JQZB_kE?si=jaiMvm6DmvsZ0h6Linsertcoolnamehere
Ramones cosigned these niggas was first. Take it up with them not me
MC5 and Stooges predates both of them
I'd even throw VU in there for good measure
- Aug 16, 2025internet buddy
Carti?
Kanye since Yeezus?Thats 2 rappers and I dont really see how either is begging for acceptance.
Matter of fact, I remember an interviewer tried to set Carti up with one of those "you're much more than a rapper, you're a rockstar" questions and he flat out told them "im a hip hop artist"
Aug 16, 2025·2 repliesMisogyny will never completely die in any industry/space that involves men as heavily as hip hop does. We still have a long way to go, but I think the progress up to this point shouldn't be taken for granted. Can you imagine a rapper doing something like this in the 90s or 00s?
- Aug 16, 2025internet buddy
MC5 and Stooges predates both of them
I'd even throw VU in there for good measure
I’ll contend with you there
My rebuttal is that entire genre is a child of the blues
Aug 16, 2025RIZGODMisogyny will never completely die in any industry/space that involves men as heavily as hip hop does. We still have a long way to go, but I think the progress up to this point shouldn't be taken for granted. Can you imagine a rapper doing something like this in the 90s or 00s?
!https://youtu.be/s2rD36QwGcQ?si=Pkl7b34RPq1oPc8w yea tupac
- Aug 16, 2025RIZGOD
Misogyny will never completely die in any industry/space that involves men as heavily as hip hop does. We still have a long way to go, but I think the progress up to this point shouldn't be taken for granted. Can you imagine a rapper doing something like this in the 90s or 00s?
!https://youtu.be/s2rD36QwGcQ?si=Pkl7b34RPq1oPc8w 
All these niggas really his sons
- Aug 16, 2025internet buddy
Pop rap at most
Tf is the difference
Aug 16, 2025·1 replynothing is going to change until something changes on a societal level
that’s the root of the issue
misogyny exists in every space, not just hip hop. the world is discriminative in general unfortunately and it bleeds into everything.
- Aug 16, 2025·1 replyallstar
nothing is going to change until something changes on a societal level
that’s the root of the issue
misogyny exists in every space, not just hip hop. the world is discriminative in general unfortunately and it bleeds into everything.
yea wanted to say that at first
you can create a counter culture tho but it will never be mainstream
- Aug 16, 2025·1 replygnarlynasty
I’ll say this about the Beastie Boys, they didn’t respect Hip Hop at first cause they didn’t understand the genre. They grew with the genre and created a vision for it with Paul’s Boutique. I kind of feel like their pioneers of Alternative Rap, and they cemented themselves with ill Communication.
I think Mac Miller was on this path too, motherfuckers like 69 and ole dude are a bit different. Their total imitators
That’s a hot take
- Aug 16, 2025·3 repliesinsertcoolnamehere
That’s a hot take
It’s kind of not, people just don’t think about it. Their probably the inventors of Alternative Rap
