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  • Jun 8, 2021
    user

    people here probably gonna think this corny or w/e but this is a perfect dramatized illustration of how lyricism started out basic, peaked, and then went back to some bullshit lmaoo and dude kinda stopped in the early 2010's with his "2019" flow it dont even get into the uzi and carti off the top simplest way to say s*** flow lol

    !https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAZn78GzBO8

    of course lyrics being "important" is arguable and subjective i guess

    Video is completely generalizing

  • Jun 8, 2021
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    Saint Aquinas

    i mean theres rappers in every continent. Even the polar bears got bars in antartica b

    we not at peak new York in the 60's across the globe yet.

    this s*** is not a genre its a party.

  • Jun 8, 2021
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    RXHalfDeadCaliban

    not even close... we ain't even pop p**** all around the world yet.

    They got guys in China rapping like NBA Youngboy now.

  • NEW EQUITY

    They got guys in China rapping like NBA Youngboy now.

    they got 2 live crew in China.

    ... I'll wait.

  • Jun 8, 2021
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    RXHalfDeadCaliban

    not even close... we ain't even pop p**** all around the world yet.

    This is big cap.

  • RXHalfDeadCaliban

    we not at peak new York in the 60's across the globe yet.

    this s*** is not a genre its a party.

    if it aint a party is it really rap

    I wanna hear them latina and motherland thots rappin bout that non-western infected p****

  • Jun 8, 2021
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    Saint Aquinas

    this kinda cap for the 2000s and 2010s lol

    he missed the roc a fella style of beats and rapping in the 00s and the thug, future, uzi, carti + drake/cole/kendrick sound of the early 2010's but by the end of the 2010's every mainstream rapper besides griselda/gibbs and associated similar type acts has that southern post migo/thug/future flow lol they cant fight not having it anymore

  • Jitney Spearx

    This is big cap.

    nah g go back to the foundations bro we definitely having a couple revivals across the world.

    but it's just based on popular music.

  • Jun 8, 2021
    user

    he missed the roc a fella style of beats and rapping in the 00s and the thug, future, uzi, carti + drake/cole/kendrick sound of the early 2010's but by the end of the 2010's every mainstream rapper besides griselda/gibbs and associated similar type acts has that southern post migo/thug/future flow lol they cant fight not having it anymore

    yeah but the content is different which he neglects. They telling stories in these raps bruh

  • Jun 8, 2021

    #1 song is a pop punk song

    Neither are dead or will die, s***s just cyclical

  • Jun 8, 2021
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    Probably at the late 90s really. But it’s different because after grunge nothing else was cool in rock afterwards besides like Marilyn Manson, nu metal, and a few alt rock and indie bands. With rap we are in the post SoundCloud era. Or post melodic 808s and rapping scene and it’s currently stagnant. The most refreshing thing we’ve seen is WLR so far. I feel the next step may be hip hop as a whole going more electronic or artists are going to have to be insanely versatile. Street rap will always be here of course too

  • Jun 8, 2021
    user

    he missed the roc a fella style of beats and rapping in the 00s and the thug, future, uzi, carti + drake/cole/kendrick sound of the early 2010's but by the end of the 2010's every mainstream rapper besides griselda/gibbs and associated similar type acts has that southern post migo/thug/future flow lol they cant fight not having it anymore

    Yep

  • Jun 8, 2021
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    NEW EQUITY

    2016-2018 was raps most popular point

    Idk about Rock. Maybe 1986-1994?

    16-18?
    rap music has never been played on mainstream radios worldwide as much as it is now.
    check the numbers

    and rock has never been dead, maybe "rock and roll" has fallen out, but rock music and the culture around it is as alive as it ever was

  • Jun 8, 2021

    also rap and rock music are probably the most influential and barrier breaking genres of all time.

    these genres will never die out

  • Jun 8, 2021
    NEW EQUITY

    2016-2018 was raps most popular point

    Idk about Rock. Maybe 1986-1994?

    Raps most popular point has been since early 2000s. We stop depending on pop stars officially really around late mid 2000s. 2010 it was a wrap and we still got the game on hold

  • Jun 8, 2021
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    dumbo

    16-18?
    rap music has never been played on mainstream radios worldwide as much as it is now.
    check the numbers

    and rock has never been dead, maybe "rock and roll" has fallen out, but rock music and the culture around it is as alive as it ever was

    I'm not really talking about numbers. Ofcourse the numbers are going to climb with the expansion of social media/streaming.
    But culturally 2014-2018 actually was in my opinion hip hops peak years. That was when the "big 3" were dropping back to back classics, all the legends were dropping classics, even one hit wonders like Fetty Wap,Dej Loaf, ilovemakonen.

    We had the SoundCloud s*** with X. It was just a fresh time. That's not there anymore. Streams are high but culturally low

  • Jun 8, 2021
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    rayray

    Probably at the late 90s really. But it’s different because after grunge nothing else was cool in rock afterwards besides like Marilyn Manson, nu metal, and a few alt rock and indie bands. With rap we are in the post SoundCloud era. Or post melodic 808s and rapping scene and it’s currently stagnant. The most refreshing thing we’ve seen is WLR so far. I feel the next step may be hip hop as a whole going more electronic or artists are going to have to be insanely versatile. Street rap will always be here of course too

    hip hop will always have its ear to the streets I don't think we're going more electronic tho.

    i think we're changing from rythym and poetry to rythym harmony and poetry with the use of autotune.

    Nate Dogg , Bone Thugs & Harmony
    Z - Ro , Drake, Future ,

    plus we turnt the og triplet flow of rap(3-6 mafia) into melodies.

    8/8 time signature too powerful for rap.

  • NEW EQUITY

    I'm not really talking about numbers. Ofcourse the numbers are going to climb with the expansion of social media/streaming.
    But culturally 2014-2018 actually was in my opinion hip hops peak years. That was when the "big 3" were dropping back to back classics, all the legends were dropping classics, even one hit wonders like Fetty Wap,Dej Loaf, ilovemakonen.

    We had the SoundCloud s*** with X. It was just a fresh time. That's not there anymore. Streams are high but culturally low

    that's the way the whole industry is dying tho. we're going back to grassroot movements / start up artists.

    the people who are the most popping aint even popping off streams or radio.

  • Jun 8, 2021
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    RXHalfDeadCaliban

    hip hop will always have its ear to the streets I don't think we're going more electronic tho.

    i think we're changing from rythym and poetry to rythym harmony and poetry with the use of autotune.

    Nate Dogg , Bone Thugs & Harmony
    Z - Ro , Drake, Future ,

    plus we turnt the og triplet flow of rap(3-6 mafia) into melodies.

    8/8 time signature too powerful for rap.

    Your second point is kinda explaining all we did in the mid to late 2010s. You think it’s going to be a continuation of that this decade?

    As in electronic I meant more beats like what bladee is producing. Like hyper pop make sprinkle a little into the melodic rap. I can see Uzi destroying those beats. Carti already has made it clear of what he can do on them with WLR

  • Jun 8, 2021
    user

    the irony of comparing rock and rap and the video used for the rap example is aesthetically paying homage to rock

    rock is dead and rap is dying because everyone wants to be a rockstar

    lmao

  • Jun 8, 2021
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    rayray

    Your second point is kinda explaining all we did in the mid to late 2010s. You think it’s going to be a continuation of that this decade?

    As in electronic I meant more beats like what bladee is producing. Like hyper pop make sprinkle a little into the melodic rap. I can see Uzi destroying those beats. Carti already has made it clear of what he can do on them with WLR

    nah. like we haven't taken it there yet tbh. we use autotune in order to sing but we haven't created this yet as a sound. throughout our popular genres / sub genres.

    but definitely a continuation.

    I think electronic will always be too experimental for rap tbh , over the years people who incorporate electronic concepts over an album have died on a hill in order to push the genre further.

  • Jun 8, 2021
    RXHalfDeadCaliban

    nah. like we haven't taken it there yet tbh. we use autotune in order to sing but we haven't created this yet as a sound. throughout our popular genres / sub genres.

    !https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkISDKc_aBc

    but definitely a continuation.

    !https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLi5_8JWoAU

    I think electronic will always be too experimental for rap tbh , over the years people who incorporate electronic concepts over an album have died on a hill in order to push the genre further.

    🤔 I think we have tbh. Not on a widescale but we def have dove into this style. I think thug has used damn near every type of approach to melodies with auto tune and constantly doing unpredictable styles within it.

    I think if we do electronic concepts it’s going to be good if we do songs like these

    This is a hyperpop beat. And Uzi/carti are like the Gods since post thug and future so I can see a handful of artists trying to follow that wave especially if Uzi catches on. I’m not talking too electronic because like you said in the past people had took the risks and died on that hill but I think hyperpop to an extent wouldn’t kill anyone