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  • Mar 3, 2023
    mo kream

    😴

    🤡

  • Mar 3, 2023
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    HOV INNOCENT

    I mean there’s obviously not a debate to be had about their impact long term

    But Hov has 13 that made noise

    In 2008, DJ Skee hosted the Hamiltonization Process, a classic 8 tape series that all made noise

    The next year he dropped Well Isn’t This Awkward which was posted on Kanye’s blog and made noise with the Rihanna samples/concept

    9 in 2 years compared to 13 in 30 years, not too shabby

    None of them s***s moved any units in the slightest.

    How you gonna point at one the most niche rappers ever and try to compare his mostly unheard of discography with one of the most legendary discographies in rap history?

    What he got on the level of RD, BP, TBA, 4:44 etc.?

    Don’t even get me started on the hits

  • Mar 3, 2023
    Unforgivable

    Nah him losing 92 bricks of cocaine is probably his biggest L

    2nd would be his investment of TIDAL and it flopping

    not reading through this thread for the replies but pretty sure he made 200-300mil on tidal lmao

  • Mar 3, 2023
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    svilthevil

    None of them s***s moved any units in the slightest.

    How you gonna point at one the most niche rappers ever and try to compare his mostly unheard of discography with one of the most legendary discographies in rap history?

    What he got on the level of RD, BP, TBA, 4:44 etc.?

    Don’t even get me started on the hits

    Units? This was the blog era lol

    How you gonna jump into a conversation about quality and make it about numbers and hits? Classic Hovenger tactic

  • Mar 3, 2023
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    svilthevil

    None of them s***s moved any units in the slightest.

    How you gonna point at one the most niche rappers ever and try to compare his mostly unheard of discography with one of the most legendary discographies in rap history?

    What he got on the level of RD, BP, TBA, 4:44 etc.?

    Don’t even get me started on the hits

    Bro said 4:44 like it’s some legendary untouchable album

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    HOV INNOCENT

    Units? This was the blog era lol

    How you gonna jump into a conversation about quality and make it about numbers and hits? Classic Hovenger tactic

    You’re the one that brought up math so I followed suit

    Plus let’s be real a great album from Hov destroys a “great” album from Charles Hamilton. So naw Charles Hamilton don’t got more great albums then Hov and his discography ain’t s*** compared to Hov’s either

  • Mar 3, 2023
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    Tonkatsu

    Bro said 4:44 like it’s some legendary untouchable album

    Are you implying that TBA is a legendary untouchable album

  • Mar 3, 2023
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    Tonkatsu

    Bro said 4:44 like it’s some legendary untouchable album

    I said 4:44 like it’s a classic rap album cause it’s a classic rap album

  • Mar 3, 2023
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    They're in a Charles Hamilton vs Jay Z argument but 4:44 and TBA hype is where we draw the line?

  • Mar 3, 2023
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    svilthevil

    I said 4:44 like it’s a classic rap album cause it’s a classic rap album

    Nobody is still playing it 6 years later. We all listened for maybe that summer and then collectively dropped it.

    A few amazing songs on there though

  • Mar 4, 2023
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    svilthevil

    You’re the one that brought up math so I followed suit

    Plus let’s be real a great album from Hov destroys a “great” album from Charles Hamilton. So naw Charles Hamilton don’t got more great albums then Hov and his discography ain’t s*** compared to Hov’s either

    The Pink Lavalamp washes all Hov albums that aren’t RD, BP, TBA

  • Mar 4, 2023
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    fiveprestos

    Are you implying that TBA is a legendary untouchable album

    TBA is a f***ing classic. 4:44 is a decent effort from an old rapper

  • Mar 4, 2023
    Tonkatsu

    Nobody is still playing it 6 years later. We all listened for maybe that summer and then collectively dropped it.

    A few amazing songs on there though

    That’s funny it’s my most played album this year

  • Mar 4, 2023
    Tonkatsu

    TBA is a f***ing classic. 4:44 is a decent effort from an old rapper

    I see it the other way around

    Even though PSA alone is better than a handful of jay albums, Vol 1 as a whole blows the black album out of the water for me. I never took a liking to the fact that it was a manufactured moment and always felt like the pop sensibilities on the album were just as awkward as bp2.

  • Mar 4, 2023
    HOV INNOCENT

    The Pink Lavalamp washes all Hov albums that aren’t RD, BP, TBA

    4:44, American Gangster, WTT, all the Vols all better.

    Plus Hov has more hits, better hooks, better beats, better quotables, better rapping, better everything really

  • Mar 4, 2023

    Looove autotune but also what a great song

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    AvenueJones

    At that time he wasnt necessarily s***tin on it because of its effects as a tool more so for the sound being a “trend” also it wasn’t utilized as well as it is now where that s*** sounds damn near seamless. In retrospect yeah it’s an L but at the time no one thought so and it worked.

    That’s cool.
    I’m not really upset at Jay or anything like that, I just think it’s weird when people act like we shouldn’t use the tools that we as a society have made for ourselves.
    But I think you’re right and that wasn’t really Jay’s intention

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    Mar 4, 2023
    soapmanwun

    song is a W waiting to happen because it will be relevant when autotune does die

    thank god it never will

  • Mar 4, 2023
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    AvenueJones

    At that time he wasnt necessarily s***tin on it because of its effects as a tool more so for the sound being a “trend” also it wasn’t utilized as well as it is now where that s*** sounds damn near seamless. In retrospect yeah it’s an L but at the time no one thought so and it worked.

    Lol, no it didn't.

  • Mar 4, 2023
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    AvenueJones

    You can literally look up that era and see niggas either A. Rockin platinum jewelry or B wearing button ups in the club lol nvm you Niggas are Gen Z so I get it.

    There's always going to be a few sheep ass niggas, doesn't mean anything.

  • Mar 4, 2023
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    Shady Ant

    That’s cool.
    I’m not really upset at Jay or anything like that, I just think it’s weird when people act like we shouldn’t use the tools that we as a society have made for ourselves.
    But I think you’re right and that wasn’t really Jay’s intention

    Part of me just thinks he was salty he couldnt do it right

    This mustve been right when Carter 3 and 808s dropped

  • Mar 4, 2023
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    ghostyyy

    Part of me just thinks he was salty he couldnt do it right

    !https://youtu.be/yZvaotunYPA

    This mustve been right when Carter 3 and 808s dropped

    I’ve never heard this.
    I’m on the job (and break), so I can’t listen now, but when I get home I’ll give my thoughts. Although I am aware that this is an infamous song, so I’m not sure I’m looking forward to it

  • Mar 4, 2023
    Shady Ant

    I’ve never heard this.
    I’m on the job (and break), so I can’t listen now, but when I get home I’ll give my thoughts. Although I am aware that this is an infamous song, so I’m not sure I’m looking forward to it

    It lives up to it’s reputation honestly

  • Mar 4, 2023
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    jesuisadorable

    hov def isnt the mostt quotable rapper
    drake got that for a min now

    you’re showing off your eurocaccery really bad rn

  • Mar 4, 2023

    loose bowels; this s***’s so easy

    i might send this to the mixtape weezy