I mean there’s obviously not a debate to be had about their impact long term
But Hov has 13 that made noise
In 2008, DJ Skee hosted the Hamiltonization Process, a classic 8 tape series that all made noise
The next year he dropped Well Isn’t This Awkward which was posted on Kanye’s blog and made noise with the Rihanna samples/concept
9 in 2 years compared to 13 in 30 years, not too shabby
None of them s***s moved any units in the slightest.
How you gonna point at one the most niche rappers ever and try to compare his mostly unheard of discography with one of the most legendary discographies in rap history?
What he got on the level of RD, BP, TBA, 4:44 etc.?
Don’t even get me started on the hits
Nah him losing 92 bricks of cocaine is probably his biggest L
2nd would be his investment of TIDAL and it flopping
not reading through this thread for the replies but pretty sure he made 200-300mil on tidal lmao
None of them s***s moved any units in the slightest.
How you gonna point at one the most niche rappers ever and try to compare his mostly unheard of discography with one of the most legendary discographies in rap history?
What he got on the level of RD, BP, TBA, 4:44 etc.?
Don’t even get me started on the hits
Units? This was the blog era lol
How you gonna jump into a conversation about quality and make it about numbers and hits? Classic Hovenger tactic
None of them s***s moved any units in the slightest.
How you gonna point at one the most niche rappers ever and try to compare his mostly unheard of discography with one of the most legendary discographies in rap history?
What he got on the level of RD, BP, TBA, 4:44 etc.?
Don’t even get me started on the hits
Bro said 4:44 like it’s some legendary untouchable album
Units? This was the blog era lol
How you gonna jump into a conversation about quality and make it about numbers and hits? Classic Hovenger tactic
You’re the one that brought up math so I followed suit
Plus let’s be real a great album from Hov destroys a “great” album from Charles Hamilton. So naw Charles Hamilton don’t got more great albums then Hov and his discography ain’t s*** compared to Hov’s either
Bro said 4:44 like it’s some legendary untouchable album
Are you implying that TBA is a legendary untouchable album
Bro said 4:44 like it’s some legendary untouchable album
I said 4:44 like it’s a classic rap album cause it’s a classic rap album
They're in a Charles Hamilton vs Jay Z argument but 4:44 and TBA hype is where we draw the line?
I said 4:44 like it’s a classic rap album cause it’s a classic rap album
Nobody is still playing it 6 years later. We all listened for maybe that summer and then collectively dropped it.
A few amazing songs on there though
You’re the one that brought up math so I followed suit
Plus let’s be real a great album from Hov destroys a “great” album from Charles Hamilton. So naw Charles Hamilton don’t got more great albums then Hov and his discography ain’t s*** compared to Hov’s either
The Pink Lavalamp washes all Hov albums that aren’t RD, BP, TBA
Are you implying that TBA is a legendary untouchable album
TBA is a f***ing classic. 4:44 is a decent effort from an old rapper
Nobody is still playing it 6 years later. We all listened for maybe that summer and then collectively dropped it.
A few amazing songs on there though
That’s funny it’s my most played album this year
TBA is a f***ing classic. 4:44 is a decent effort from an old rapper
I see it the other way around
Even though PSA alone is better than a handful of jay albums, Vol 1 as a whole blows the black album out of the water for me. I never took a liking to the fact that it was a manufactured moment and always felt like the pop sensibilities on the album were just as awkward as bp2.
The Pink Lavalamp washes all Hov albums that aren’t RD, BP, TBA
4:44, American Gangster, WTT, all the Vols all better.
Plus Hov has more hits, better hooks, better beats, better quotables, better rapping, better everything really
At that time he wasnt necessarily s***tin on it because of its effects as a tool more so for the sound being a “trend” also it wasn’t utilized as well as it is now where that s*** sounds damn near seamless. In retrospect yeah it’s an L but at the time no one thought so and it worked.
That’s cool.
I’m not really upset at Jay or anything like that, I just think it’s weird when people act like we shouldn’t use the tools that we as a society have made for ourselves.
But I think you’re right and that wasn’t really Jay’s intention
song is a W waiting to happen because it will be relevant when autotune does die
thank god it never will
At that time he wasnt necessarily s***tin on it because of its effects as a tool more so for the sound being a “trend” also it wasn’t utilized as well as it is now where that s*** sounds damn near seamless. In retrospect yeah it’s an L but at the time no one thought so and it worked.
Lol, no it didn't.
You can literally look up that era and see niggas either A. Rockin platinum jewelry or B wearing button ups in the club lol nvm you Niggas are Gen Z so I get it.
There's always going to be a few sheep ass niggas, doesn't mean anything.
That’s cool.
I’m not really upset at Jay or anything like that, I just think it’s weird when people act like we shouldn’t use the tools that we as a society have made for ourselves.
But I think you’re right and that wasn’t really Jay’s intention
Part of me just thinks he was salty he couldnt do it right
This mustve been right when Carter 3 and 808s dropped
Part of me just thinks he was salty he couldnt do it right
!https://youtu.be/yZvaotunYPAThis mustve been right when Carter 3 and 808s dropped
I’ve never heard this.
I’m on the job (and break), so I can’t listen now, but when I get home I’ll give my thoughts. Although I am aware that this is an infamous song, so I’m not sure I’m looking forward to it
I’ve never heard this.
I’m on the job (and break), so I can’t listen now, but when I get home I’ll give my thoughts. Although I am aware that this is an infamous song, so I’m not sure I’m looking forward to it
It lives up to it’s reputation honestly
hov def isnt the mostt quotable rapper
drake got that for a min now
you’re showing off your eurocaccery really bad rn