you not getting the essense of the response. the Vietnamese won because they had the science of Marxism-Leninism on their side which means as long as they started from first principles, they would always win through superior scientific strategy. weapons don't win wars, science does. the US were defeated because the popular front of the communist party was able to bring Vietnamese society in the south together in a patriotic anti-imperialist direction.

True Marines have been captured ?

nah

Bruh

b2a

the IDF f***ing sucks at ground combat, idk if the announcement that they wont be assisting the U.S. in an invasion of iran was an act of entitlement or an admission of their mediocrity in that field

Soon guys

Mashallah rest in piss

saying Vietnam won bc of soviet and chinese aid doesn't make sense because plenty of wars were lost with aid from both. the Vietnamese understood that winning the war was a political struggle as much as it was a military won.

You have to be actually pretty stupid to send your men to Iran where they will be killed and/or bogged down. They're declining just like every country we are begging to join is. This is beyond simple ground operation or naval war against a country of 90M and enormous land mass and geographic traps.

Israeli goals also aren't centered on reopening Hormuz. They're not even fighting the same war as Trump at this point.

What

Mission accomplished

This would leave Iran as a major regional (arguably global?) power broker.......

Deciding to just come back later assumes they'll just sit in place, not rebuild and wait for an attack

Tbh though Trump gets bored pretty quickly and I don't think he genuinely cares about the Straight or factored it in to the initial campaign

On the other hand this admin loves misdirection

Feel like its a little of both

bro finally found out that it wasn't going as well as people were telling him

I really wonder what he was being told

He can only not care about the strait for so long

I think he cared a lot more when it first was closed than he does now. He’s gonna have to eventually do China trip, midterms, Cuba, etc.. and will want to move on from being occupied with this all.

Oil markets will take several months to stabilize and get back to production even at this point. If you can’t kill the regime the new reality is that Iran is now a power broker for energy trade. Very few ways to avoid that and a Kharg operation will just dig a deeper hole. It forces the war to be about fixing a crisis he created

At the same time again he loves misdirection so maybe they do care and are set to get bogged down for months or years longer

Mind you, the US basically lost an aircraft carrier for a couple years at minimum thanks to this all.

Years worth of missiles gone with an inability to defend yourself, your expensive jets and your allies across the region. So much for US security guarantees

We'll see what happens. I don't think he is amassing troops to the region only to pull out. But, he is a complete wild card who doesn't really believe in anything other than making money.

I can't see how the US just leaves Iran in control of the Strait of Hormuz without at least trying to reopen it.

Truly hilarious if he’s not trying to just do some fake out surprise attack

Imagine wasting all of these billions of dollars of resources to dismantle the Iranian regime for the end result to be an incredibly strengthened Iranian regime

trump being bored is the story of his second term

i dont think he care for that