Then you’re not sober brother.
Some people use the term sober just for alcohol, some use it for everything. Regardless, I'm free from alcohol and that's what matters.
but technically i am sober both ways cuz i'm not smoking rn
Happy for you @op
It’s very difficult to face our demons / issues. We often ignore them until it’s too late.
Happy you decided to get that straightened out
I know it wasn’t easy, but you’re all the better for it
@Luziver u seein this thread
BENDERBOYZ ITT
Being sober is underrated
Ain't drank in like 5 years
Ain't smoked in like 5 months
So clear headed and focused on goals it's beautiful
Congrats @op , Did you ever go with any programs, or follow any stuff like that or did you just go sober?
Alcohol is something I thought you could never get addicted to until I struggled with it myself and continue to, along with my pill addiction, they go hand-in-hand for me. Been thinking I want to go to rehab but I know that I also just want to feel I can do it myself.
Congrats @op , Did you ever go with any programs, or follow any stuff like that or did you just go sober?
I was at the point where if I wasn’t able to quit this time, I was going to go to rehab.
But I was able to with the help of friends and family. I actually went vegan for a year when I quit and it gave me something to keep my mind occupied. Learning how to cook, getting everything right in the kitchen, looking up recipes, reading up on getting healthy again. Then I got a dog which occupied my time reading up on training him and all.
But yeah if I failed that last time I was going to go to rehab
Just to share some of my story
I got to the point that I was averaging over 20 drinks a night. I was friends with all the bartenders in town and they'd always hook it up. So every day after work I'd stop at the bar, get about 5-8 beers, 4+ shots, and then pick up a 12 pack on the way home. People would tell me they could never tell that I've been drinking even late in the night. But my body was revolting against me, and I knew if I kept drinking I'd die an early death but it didn't matter to me. What's the point of being healthy if you're not enjoying life? And even when I had a moment of clarity telling me not to drink for the day, on the 30 minute commute home I'd always convince myself to just stop for a couple drinks, which always turned to 20+ cuz once I started I wouldn't stop til I passed out.
I had family and pleading for me to stop, but I just didn't want to. Had a co-worker have a heart to heart with me because he said I reminded him of someone who drank himself to death.
After years of this, it started to affect my work. I basically got away with a lot of stuff because I was well liked and was very good at my job, but truth be told if I wasn't as high a performer at work I would've been fired. I should've been. I should've been dead or in jail tbh for the s*** that I did.
But it didn't matter because I didn't value myself. It wasn't until I saw my actions affecting others that I snapped out of it. I stopped at the bar on the way home, and left my roommates dog in the kennel. We're watching the world series, it goes to extra innings, and I of course stay way later than I told myself I was going to. And I get home, and see the dog whimpering in the kennel, and I just broke down... and just reached out to my friends and was completely honest with them about my struggles. I'd be dead if it weren't for them
tldr alcohol bad if you can't moderate
Nigga you was in DEEP
Ive been in AA, NA classes before bro. I'm sure you have too. Im telling you true sobriety is not consuming any substances at all legal or not. Whatever addiction you had with alcohol is still being served with cannabis and THC. I smoke weed every day and I'm just now coming to grips that i am a d*** addict. You don't have to be on the street or down bad to be an addict. Most people are high functioning addicts of some kind. That's why true sobriety is nonsense
I think op reply about semantics is pretty on point tbh
But for discussion sake,with your definition of sobriety (because I think it varies from person to person Based on their exposure to different programs or treatment methods, and just personal opinions) do you think Someone on an SSRI or ADHD medication or antipsychotics even, but they don’t drink they don’t smoke, is not sober?
Nigga really said 5-8 beers, 4+ shots, and a 12 pack for home. That’s insane
Yeah it was wild man. One of the moments of clarity I had where I realized how far gone I was was after taking a vapor shot. I was like damn that’s crazy I actually feel a good buzz from it, then I realized I was like 8 drinks in already I f***ing should be feeling a damn buzz
Yeah it was wild man. One of the moments of clarity I had where I realized how far gone I was was after taking a vapor shot. I was like damn that’s crazy I actually feel a good buzz from it, then I realized I was like 8 drinks in already I f***ing should be feeling a damn buzz
Glad you’re in a better place now man
Yeah it was wild man. One of the moments of clarity I had where I realized how far gone I was was after taking a vapor shot. I was like damn that’s crazy I actually feel a good buzz from it, then I realized I was like 8 drinks in already I f***ing should be feeling a damn buzz
What's a vapor shot?
What's a vapor shot?
The bartender usually lights a liquor on fire and catches the vapor in a cup and you inhale it
It’s f***ing wild and probably wildly dangerous too
there's nothing necessarily wrong with responsible drinking, but some of us can't do it responsibly
enjoy it if you can
Yeah I don't overdo it tho I smoke more than anything but eventually I want to be alcohol and smoke free