Wt701

2y

Seriously? Even if navient sold them on their own?

space0cadet

2y

Don't care. Still upholds capitalism and unsustainable growth.
We are all going to die from climate change unless we move into degrowth, meaning an economic system that values people over profit.
Socialism or barbarism

space0cadet

2y

Don't care. Still upholds capitalism and unsustainable growth.
We are all going to die from climate change unless we move into degrowth, meaning an economic system that values people over profit.
Socialism or barbarism

Wt701

2y

Navient qualifies tho rite

Firelord

2y

I'd rather live in a significantly less bad capitalist hellscape.

Capitalism is unsustainable, agreed. What can Joe Biden alone do about that. What could any other person in the presidency accomplish that Joe Biden hasn't?

coke n whyt btchs

2y

it's impressive that it took what, 50 kids, to get killed for them to throw a bone to us for the first time in three decades? sure

Firelord

2y

it's impressive that Joe Biden was able to usher it through a divided congress, yes.
again if Joe Biden could rule by decree you can fault him for things like that but his influence is much more restricted.

Working with the tools he has, he's done about as good as anybody could.

Jody

2y

What do you have to say

coke n whyt btchs

2y

why are we reserving praise for a system where this is the best we can do?

space0cadet

2y

Joe biden does what he's meant to do, you're right. For me there is no energy to be spared talking about nor idolizing presidents because they will not solve the problem closest to me

Jody

2y

Because the alternative is authoritarianism

Donahuekirb

2y

yeah let's forget about all of Obama's crimes/failures

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jan/09/america-dropped-26171-bombs-2016-obama-legacy
https://www.axios.com/2019/06/21/immigration-ice-deportation-trump-obama
https://www.mintpressnews.com/white-house-reauthorize-military-equipment-police/218714/
https://www.salon.com/2010/04/07/assassinations_2/
https://www.salon.com/2009/03/20/reich_3/

Firelord

2y

https://www.forbes.com/sites/adamminsky/2022/10/06/how-to-tell-if-your-student-loans-qualify-for-forgiveness-under-bidens-plan/?sh=7dfb7d2b45cc

coke n whyt btchs

2y

Money supersedes democratic interests as they stand. we are in "authoritarianism."

coke n whyt btchs

2y

why are we reserving praise for a system where this is the best we can do?

Wt701

2y

Looks like a whole Lotta red tape and ways to oversell whats actually being offered, typical

Jody

2y

Again, Obama had a legislative road block for the simple reason of his skin color
None of that say otherwise

Firelord

2y

the praise isn't for the system. The praise is for the man squeezing more than nearly anybody else would out of the system. Doing things that are actually changing lives.

Yes, I want a socialist country, but that's not something that lies at Joe Biden's feet, that lies on socialists to help spread socialism and educate people so that a revolution, whether social or armed or whatever, can take place.

Joe Biden is not a bad guy or the bad guy. He's operating in the same system as the rest of us. He's delivering a lot of substantial things for us with that system. He's using the tools he has.

Synopsis

2y

Now tell us what all this has done in practical terms

Donahuekirb

2y

that still didn't stop him from dropping over 26,000 bombs in 2016. bombing Iraq, Syria, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Libya, Yemen, and Somalia
deporting over 3 million immigrants
doing nothing about the largest foreclosure crisis in US history
bailing out wall street
etc.

Synopsis

2y

Now tell us what all this has done in practical terms