What this gotta do with Cole, his dad and brother and you 1v1ing your cousin for laptop time
Itâs almost like subjectivity is confused with objectivity
Yes, me and that guy are having a discussion. That's how that works dummy
Coming into this thread to discuss the music and seeing the same smooth brains from the billboard thread
I appreciate Cole rapping rapping and dialing in flows and schemes and landing punches. He's just impossible to make sense of as a person anymore. And that's an issue when he makes everything about his persona
Yall get too attached to a rapper, I donât care about who tf they are. Itâs about the bars and thatâs all its ever been about. J Cole is better than any of his peers
He wanted no parts of being drag down road drake and Kendrick took at each other he wanted to just rap and whoever ppl say rap better would be best but drake and Kendrick going personal he don't want that kind rap beef. I'm only playing devil advocate I think Cole apologizing and deleting the song was weak
Kendrick himself prefaced with Drake on euphoria that it ainât have to get personal. So Kendrick already wasnât going that route at first although Iâm sure he knew Drake would bite
All Cole had to do was separate himself and say âlook, I donât care what you got going on with Drake. With me itâs just about who got the hardest bars and letting yall know Iâm nothing to play withâ thatâs it. Cole just psyched himself out tbh
''Beautiful, hip hop hip hop''
Yeah man, I love how good hiphop can feel so exciting sometimes. Cole is so good, man, I love it.
Kendrick himself prefaced with Drake on euphoria that it ainât have to get personal. So Kendrick already wasnât going that route at first although Iâm sure he knew Drake would bite
All Cole had to do was separate himself and say âlook, I donât care what you got going on with Drake. With me itâs just about who got the hardest bars and letting yall know Iâm nothing to play withâ thatâs it. Cole just psyched himself out tbh
why so many ppl so hung up over this still like they the arbitors of hiphop and battle rap.
that man said: nah that mans my friend and an amazing artist I deeply respect and it don't sit right with my Spirit to talk/spit to him in a negative way.
why some of you acting like it takes away anything from his pen and his rap skill at all. just enjoy the skill and the music man, damn
people getting so hung up over some real HUMAN s*** he did
Not personal to you btw.
why so many ppl so hung up over this still like they the arbitors of hiphop and battle rap.
that man said: nah that mans my friend and an amazing artist I deeply respect and it don't sit right with my Spirit to talk/spit to him in a negative way.
why some of you acting like it takes away anything from his pen and his rap skill at all. just enjoy the skill and the music man, damn
people getting so hung up over some real HUMAN s*** he did
Not personal to you btw.
I feel you, I think at this point ppl not hung up up about it but if we gonna talk about it then letâs talk
Cole got the nicest pen in the game right now but if anyone else pulled what he did they wouldâve got clowned too. Itâs just honesty
Personally i still think the Fall Off will be a classic but to be real, Cole had a fumble of year back in 2024 although ultimately him following his truth should be respected in general
why so many ppl so hung up over this still like they the arbitors of hiphop and battle rap.
that man said: nah that mans my friend and an amazing artist I deeply respect and it don't sit right with my Spirit to talk/spit to him in a negative way.
why some of you acting like it takes away anything from his pen and his rap skill at all. just enjoy the skill and the music man, damn
people getting so hung up over some real HUMAN s*** he did
Not personal to you btw.
great post
I feel you, I think at this point ppl not hung up up about it but if we gonna talk about it then letâs talk
Cole got the nicest pen in the game right now but if anyone else pulled what he did they wouldâve got clowned too. Itâs just honesty
Personally i still think the Fall Off will be a classic but to be real, Cole had a fumble of year back in 2024 although ultimately him following his truth should be respected in general
Idk man, I might've matured a bit differently by the time the apology rolled around, but tbh when I woke up that day and seen that s*** I respected it from the jump, for all the reasons he said he chose to fall back. I think people just don't like taking things at face value for whatever reason and choose to build and put stock into narratives instead. He didn't mean the s*** he said in 7 minute drill and really he just didn't want to do it (beef). There's a lot of self-determination one has to have in that moment to go against the world and stick to the unpopular choice of taking it all back.
I understood and respected everything he said in that moment. The internet gonna internet and run narratives, and we can have our lil fun with it, but I'm surprised people are still stuck on that s***, rather than choosing to either enjoy the art and the artist, or to just opt out completely.
Again, none of us are arbitors of hiphop or battle rap, y'all are wasting precious energy lol.
Idk man, I might've matured a bit differently by the time the apology rolled around, but tbh when I woke up that day and seen that s*** I respected it from the jump, for all the reasons he said he chose to fall back. I think people just don't like taking things at face value for whatever reason and choose to build and put stock into narratives instead. He didn't mean the s*** he said in 7 minute drill and really he just didn't want to do it (beef). There's a lot of self-determination one has to have in that moment to go against the world and stick to the unpopular choice of taking it all back.
I understood and respected everything he said in that moment. The internet gonna internet and run narratives, and we can have our lil fun with it, but I'm surprised people are still stuck on that s***, rather than choosing to either enjoy the art and the artist, or to just opt out completely.
Again, none of us are arbitors of hiphop or battle rap, y'all are wasting precious energy lol.
Itâs not the apology itself, itâs the best raper alive talk he was doing for about a decade (a narrative he started for himself), combined with the moment and the apology.
I just understand both sides, the critics and the apologists when it comes to that moment with Cole
Doesnât stop him from being great but he not exempt from catching some heat either
Itâs all good, thatâs just how it is
Yall get too attached to a rapper, I donât care about who tf they are. Itâs about the bars and thatâs all its ever been about. J Cole is better than any of his peers
There's more to bars than out farting people. Cole still dabbles in juvenilia. His technical skills are more reliable than his batting average with bars