Is it too late to scrap the gorilla musical?

As if that saves it as opposed to it being silly to hide the “big implications for the DC universe” in a jimmy olsen show

DC will never have a successful universe in live action film in our lifetime.

We didn’t even get a first trailer and you’re already hating. Why would anyone take that opinion seriously?

ngl imo it was a mistake making superman feel like a phase 4 movie when its just starting off the universe.

This is the problem with culture in general after 2016-2018 or so

Because the Ellisons have bad politics we’re supposed to pretend a Gorilla Grodd or Jimmy Olsen show before Martian Manhunter Lobo Flash Nightwing The Question etc is a good idea?

Those are two different conversations and ironically their difference in politics would be overlooked if he had a Battinson or Holland Spidey or RDJ Iron Man tier property in popularity instead of doing lesser known characters

The slots of Clayface and Supergirl could have been Flash or Nightwing or Martian Manhunter

The premise of it as a whole before a Flash show is already a No. It wouldn’t matter if it was some The Wire Breaking Bad s***, that’s not how you build superhero universes sorry to be the one to tell you. But good on him for doing it this way so no studio has to ever waste 5 years on this type of experiment ever again. You announce a reboot you give me the heavy hitters in those first 5-7 years then we can have your Daily Planet sitcom

A lot of the mess you are saying in this post, boils down to "capitalism doesn't care about consumers its going to eat its own d*** regardless"

It definitely doesn't care about art

No

Im not thinking about capitalism or politics im thinking about 4-8 more hours of actual A/B-List DC superhero movie

Again, the problem with culture after the mid 2010’s: you keep trying to use politics/morals/ethics to escape a conversation that is strictly about creative choices lol

Like don't get me wrong i really don't mind more experimental superhero movies but dawg why are we making a clayface movie before batman is even established? thats like making a movie on f***ing molecule man before the fantastic four like sure it would be a cool experimental movie but its f***ing molecule man

S2 was objectively dog s***

You think this is about sales when it should be about art

YOU

are the problem

Not at all but You’re gonna try to latch on to that to avoid the actual convo of Gunn’s poor creative choices, i have no reason to not say that is my stance if it was

You tried to ignore that initial convo (Gunn’s poor creative choices) by saying the difference in politics is why this is happening and my response to that is that it wouldn’t have mattered if he had an RDJ/Battinson/Holland level adaptation, thats the only time you can vaguely say sales got brought up here and again you’re the one putting sales at the forefront of that. The creative direction and tone of 08 Iron Man/Battinson/Holland Spidey (for better or worse in contrast to Tobey) is why they are successful enough to where sales comes to your mind when they are brought up

He easily could have had one of those with a properly casted Flash, relative to the creative vibe he seems to like

The profit incentive is not going to comfort you when you feel bad

Get off the tit man

Meme ppl been cooking ngl

What the f*** are you talking about

You’re literally the only one mentioning sales/profit/capitalism/anything outside of creative choices here and then saying I’m the one who cares about that

Lmaoo

The supergirl movie as movie #2 was a big miss. Execs shoulda veto'd that with quickness.

You are a brainwashed sheep and doing mental gymnastics so this conversation is deaded

No its not you just are giving up on having an actual conversation by using buzzwords like “capitalism” “sheep” “profits” which can’t work on someone who is trying to have a completely different conversation about poor creative choices

We can see you Nigga lol

If that s*** had felt like an origin story that would’ve been way worse

Would of been better suited for a tv show imo

He made the best Superman movie in 20 years bro 😭😭

Super girl made sense in conjunction to what Superman set up.

That script was just ass

somebody get these beggars out of here