even with lowered expectations and waiting til hype disapated clay face was baffling at times. Felt like an early 2000s cbm but not in a great way. There were so many concepts they could explore in interesting ways yet came similiar to Joker 2019 plot of the loser outcast getting revenge killing people with a black woman love interest. Except Joker set up a Gotham much better. The villain and hunting them down at times was non sensical .

The final step is to scrap MoT and make me beg for the gunncut man

Time is a flat circle

It’s a whole new universe. They have to establish them all over again lol.

I love clayface as a character so was scared to see it until today to be disapointed. I lowered my expectations because people liked it and I wanted to be kind to it but I am utterly forlorn by what I saw.

Oh god

I don’t think they’d mesh well tho. Kinda happy they aren’t combined personally. Now both are most likely f***ed though so @NobodyWins

Damn that sounds terrible. I have withheld my money smartly during a lot of 2026 movies

Maybe don’t buy a company that puts you $87b in debt then???

A lot of the best dc writers of all time for all of these characters are still alive. You could call them to help construct a cinematic universe . To help with writing on movies. For tips on how to have characters interact. What movies to do . What actors or directors could handle it best. Map out a plan but instead you choose to nly contact Tom King

I hope Gunn fights back because they are doing everything to s*** on and distance themselves from his universe

F*** all that oh it was a good 4 years s***

its not terrible but man lol

Right lmao

According to what? The rules to copy the MCU which hasn’t worked for anyone but the MCU? I think DC has pretty much taken the last 20 years to exclusively go out of their way to prove that doesn’t work

Justice League: Mortal was 2007. It will be 2027 in a month

Anyone watching these movies gets the general gist of how these heroes came to be and you can always do flashbacks or retroactive movies but putting off s*** we care about 5-7 years at a time for origin stories we’ve seen time and time again is played out lol

lanterns tv success isnt going to sell a crazy amount of blurays, there are no movies coming from it, not selling merch, a few halloween costumes, some money from hbo but nothing major

Lanterns success isnt going to blow them away. Same way Zack snyder Justice league premiered on hbo max and streaming

they arent recovering the budget they lost

what was the point of having no origin stories all the characters established but we have only seen one of the big 3 at all ?

"no origin stories everything is established"

we watching clayface become clayface, peacemaker for 16 hours, superman rewatch his origin story on repeat to soothe himself, supergirl origin of how she gives a f*** and puts the suit on

Gunn Comics has a ring to it ngl

F*** it he better strike while he got niggas desperate to defend him lol

Who said it had to be like the MCU? To introduce the characters again bro lmao. MCU started off with iron man and iron man was not a huge name back then. Nobody cried then about it.

And nobody said s*** about making them all origin stories where did you guys go to school at

I’m just baffled at how out of touch these dudes are. They think people giving DC a chance AGAIN?? letting Gunn build up was the best and last chance DC had

there is no point in litigating gunn in some ways failed as a studio head merger or not. He will be better off just directing and writing. do I have high hopes for the new studio head ? no.

Variety article feels like a hit piece tbh