Bro not even in top ten. That's not household

Pretending iron man was super popular is so funny man what are we doing

toys existed everywhere . He had tv shows, cartoons and games. nerd culture hadnt permeated in genreal outside of the avenues we are talking about he was still an known quantity

a man in a metal robotic suit isnt as high risk as supergirl , clayface, peacemaker , creatrue commandos its a man in a metal suit.

Harold you're not wrong about the comic run, but that was not selling iron man into a tier. The actual movie carried by rdj was what put iron man to household status

if spider man , x men are not under mavel. hulk has already had a movie at the time ang lee did alright

who the f*** else that marvel owned the rights to at the time would they use to make a movie?

it was really iron man or captain america to start a universe

Feige choose iron man with a script writers and major actors attached

that isnt comparable to dcu at all

Silver Surfer had a show. They were making any Marvel show trying to replicate the success of Spider-Man and X-Men

But yeah that true it isn’t as big of a risk as Supergirl

Although Supergirl did have a theatrical release in the Reeves era

iron man was more popular than silver surfer by far

Iron Man wasn’t a nobody but let’s not act like he was a heavy hitter. You had the obv Spider-Man, Hulk, X-men and FF

He was mid tier pre MCU . There’s a reason movie studios wasn’t jumping for his rights.

Of course. I’m just saying they were making shows out of any property they had

“COMIC” bro had no other medium besides a s***ty 90s show

well yeah no s*** the movie fully got him into a tier status. I am saying he wasnt a complete unknown that comic run was known, toys existed, cartoon existed. He was visible at toys r us shelves , in games, hidden character in tony hawk

kids and adults knew about him

did they know about him the same as a major motion picture no

but comparing him to clayface and supergirl is entirely dishonest ...

TO YOU DOES THAT COMPARE TO PEACE MAKER , CLAYFACE, CREATURE COMMANDOS , SUPERGIRL?

On Fox Kids next to 90's Power Rangers and then reran for the next decade on the Disney equivalent to Toonami

compared to Clayface and Supergirl

What the hell lmao

if you ask somebody about iron man before the movie drops I guarantee they know more information than the general audience is able to tell you about creature commandos, clayface , supergirl

They taking us saying that niggas knew about Iron Man from the cartoon and s*** and turning it into us saying he was comparable to Superman and Batman lmao

you are acting as if IRON MAN IS AS NICHE AS supergirl woman of tomorrow adapted from a comic, clayface which the main chance they know is from animated series or games, creature commandos they will die not knowing, suicide squad

your comparison is null and void no matter how you look at it.

That's different convo. But superman and supergirl is a decent start for movies. TV shows are another ball game that I really don't care about

or spider man which I am not saying. I am saying if you are acting like they are unknown b tier big risk

hulk , iron man 1 and 2

made 1.8 billion combined

that is an entire 1 billion more than the run of the dcu so far

F***. Why am I defending Gunn? Bring back Snyder. I side with Harold again

Here’s what people are missing with the Marvel to DC equivalents:

1. Marvel’s biggest characters in the real world are not their biggest characters in universe while DC’s are 1:1
2. The MCU’s foundation is centered around forming the Avengers, which is Marvel’s Justice League - again, the flagship hero assembly team of each universe’s most important superheroes

So yes, starting a Marvel cinematic universe centered around assembling the Avengers with Iron Man/Hulk/Thor/Cap is equal to starting a DC cinematic universe centered around forming the Justice League with Batman/Green Lantern/Wonder Woman/Superman/Flash

Iron Man in 2008 being Vince staples tier is the type of generational slander that I come on this site for

It’s also correct!

a supergirl movie in space solving s***trafficking based on a comic the director didnt read a director was chosen by the studio head

how is the studio head not at fault for choosing a director who didnt read the comic and a writer who its her first movie ever writing? whos fault is that if not james gunns?

its not correct.

Ironman was absolutely B tier tho