Agreed. We’ve been through this twice and it just hasn’t worked out. They need to go back to making solid standalone movies. Maybe someday drop a Justice League movie and see how it goes.!

for the profit they expected from the universe in the 4 years it can be considered a failure man. I am not saying its a normal tradtional failure but from what they expected with the creative freedom they had yes. The successes exist for sure though.

As DCU studio head yes James Gunn failed.

how did you know he would fail?

4 years in no Batman no WW. JG got lost in the toy chest.

Soooo are they keeping Corenswet & co. or are they starting all over again

Genuinely asking because Idk - how much of a say does he or anyone else (other than some actors they might be hesitant to recast) really have? Like even before Gunn left, couldn't DC Studios be like "Well, we own the rights to the Batman IP so we'll just keep Robert, Zoe, Colin and get someone else to direct a sequel that's set in this universe we started" ?

i dont think he had as full creative control as he claimed

Jeremy Latcham is a conservative Christian. He supported Spencer Pratt, he worked with Nate Bargatze to restore the "family comedy," he says faith guides his creative process, he runs a faith-based writers group to make blatantly Christian films, he's been on the "Bible Bros" podcast. 100% this is a shift to a blatantly conservative POV.

AS WE SAID WOULD HAPPEN

gotta see how much money MOT makes to plot next moves

Their first project was dec 2024, it hasn't even been 2 years yet how much financial success are they looking for on a reboot universe with its brand name tarnished from the last in just a year and a half ? The DCU minus supergirl was in the right direction.

I mean for all the s*** ya been giving clayface, the movie is a success and more people care about clayface then they ever had

Gunn was on an acid trip when he greenlit the Grodd show

first dcu project was creature commandos

Man of Tomorrow the end of it for many of us

sorry but Gunn a sellout for staying under a conserative DCU head and Ellisons

it was one thing when he had creative control and was studio head still a sellout but this is atrocious

All just to be the one who gets to control the action figures

He was on shrooms for that one

They thought having Louis be certified mid was gonna fly for more than 2 movies

Superman
Flash
Wonder Woman
Green Lantern
Batman
Justice League

This is the way for an initial DC slate. The winning over the four quadrant general audience while deepening loyalty from the fans who will scream at the screen opening weekend way. The only way. Enough of the quirky s***, we’ve seen it with two attempts

And please if they’re rebooting…do not announce the universe in the press beforehand. Introduce that element out of nowhere in the theater at the end of the first film. Just tell the public “WERE DOING A NEW SUPERMAN MOVIE” and leave it at that. I doubt they’re rebooting tho

Pretty sure Gunn had the power to do so if he pleased and was just giving him the respect of having a choice

idk what to tell you, you're just so clearly on the opposite side that there's not much to be said in discussion with you. all that s*** doesn't really matter man

knowing I get to overall quit super hero movies

will watch x men, doomsday for memes , the batman part 2 is the end

but in general they keep failing so I can easily leave them

Unless it really performs good its a wrap. Superman 1 didn't even hit overseas.

No Zoe Kravitz in Pt II and more Miss Mazel in MoT yeah NEW HIERARCHY NEEDED 💯

so youre saying let Zack finish his arc

They're not letting Ezra Miller within 2 miles of a studio set lbr

Gotta make at least $700 mill minimum for them to not consider it a sunk investment

If it does same or less than first one they gonna view it as audience disinterest and dump it