Iron man wasnt a household name when the MCU started tho

idk this idea that we NEEDED the big three on screen from the get go just sounds like executive producer slop

From the jump most people were down with the universe Gunn was cooking and we were about to see the pay off literally in the next few years.

MOT seems like its damn near going to have half the JLU in it

bro s*** was flop after flop
they cancelled snyders plans because they said his s*** didnt make enough money.
gunn movies couldnt make the money that those movies made 10 years ago and thats not even accounting for inflation

Nahh they needed the trinity financially. Or at least some JL members.

What Gunn tried did not work, he created a bigger flop than Morbius

Superman made double its profit.
Super Girl did awful
Clayface is currently doubling its profit

Youre not a studio exec bro. They will always want more money and the idea that a SUPERMAN movie was about to do a billy after DCEU was actually flop after flop was just not going to happen

im not a studio exec u right but now neither is gunn

financially this niggas are fine man

DC movies were not about to stop existing cause super girl was a failiure and superman wasnt the biggest movie of all time

To be fair, isn’t DC’s main issue at the moment is that they lost the trust of the general public?

There’s no scenario where Superman 2025 was going to make enough that would completely satisfy studio execs.
Not to mention Superman films have yet to surpass $700 million

Bro never made it thru chap 1/gods and monsters phase, guess we ll never know what chapter 2 was

Literally

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DC_Extended_Universe#Films

Superman made more than the last like 5 synder verse movie bro what are we talking about

Could he not have just mandated James to do this?

Then James could've chosen to leave on his own volition

there are only 4 snyderverse movies
dceu isnt snyderverse

you right, still tho

So then by qualification everything through MOT is Gunn-verse and then following even though it's still technically the same universe it's not the Gunn-verse?

safran produced those last 5 dceu movies btw lol

yeah gunnverse dead now unless he come back to write projects its the ellisonverse now
dceu was hamadaverse

Man of tomorrow supposedly has a lot of the new castings like wonderwoman

Makes me wonder what’s gonna get removed from that movie in post production Josie league style depending on what they wanna do going forward

Don’t think these are huge parts though

Gunn is in charge of finishing MoT and would simply get notes from studio to edit film a certain way or cut things. Closer to what he did to The Flash than Whedon

Brotha thats literally whats happening

Supergirl bombed, Superman did alright but stalled overseas, Clayface is cool but aint moving the needle. No one cares bout the TV shows. Now its over. DC doesn't even have anything announced 2028 and beyond besides Batman part 2

That raises the question of do they want to spend any more money on the movie to do reshoots or would they just stick with what they have and try to make it work?

Some people are extremely overstating the DCU's lack of commercial success.

Was Superman as big of a hit as Warner Bros. wanted it to be? No, but it still made $600M coming off of the DCEU's soured reputation with a character who hasn't been successful in live-action since the 1980s. It was a moderately successful film, and served its purpose as the proof of concept for both the character and the franchise moving forward.

Clayface was made on a smaller budget and is on pace to finish with around 4x what it cost to make.

Lanterns was extremely successful for HBO, pulling in viewership numbers that were just under some of their other most popular shows.

The DCU's only real financial disaster was Supergirl, nothing else. A 75% hit rate on their first four projects (Creature Commandos is animated and Peacemaker Season 2 was a continuation of the DCEU) is a pretty good foundation

“Superman’s $618M box office was not impressive to Skydance either, as the film lacked “pop culture impact” in their eyes”

best superhero movie in years but Israeli jr thinks it didn’t make an impact