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  • Hi-C 🦌
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    Oblivion X

    What

    Do you even know what a nationalist is?

    Why you quoting if you don’t understand what that s*** even means lol. Would you argue that a white nationalist isn’t racist? No of course not. Keep it consistent. Both lines of thinking are very problematic

  • Jul 26, 2020
    Nis

    Married to the Rothschilds btw

    Not anymore

  • Jul 26, 2020
    Smacked Voodoo

    When he did that I started laughing tbh I was like "Oop now y'all got this nigga started"

    i was just anticipating the anti semitism and farrakhan nazi talking points when he did that and he didn’t disappoint on that front

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    Hi-C

    Do you even know what a nationalist is?

    Why you quoting if you don’t understand what that s*** even means lol. Would you argue that a white nationalist isn’t racist? No of course not. Keep it consistent. Both lines of thinking are very problematic

    White nationalism is different. It’s just a euphemism white supremacists use to appeal to moderates. It doesn’t mean what it claims to mean.

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    CLG

    Revelation 2:9
    I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan

    Revelation 3:9
    Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee

    For reference

    Ain’t this the Old testament

  • Hi-C 🦌
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    FRITZD

    White nationalism is different. It’s just a euphemism white supremacists use to appeal to moderates. It doesn’t mean what it claims to mean.

    The nationalist part is yes but it still is the same line of thinking. You’re engaging in racism by trying to combat it. It’s the same logic and it’s not good. Especially the anti-Semitism.

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    Hi-C

    Do you even know what a nationalist is?

    Why you quoting if you don’t understand what that s*** even means lol. Would you argue that a white nationalist isn’t racist? No of course not. Keep it consistent. Both lines of thinking are very problematic

    • asks me do I know the definition of a black nationalist then uses it incorrectly

    Here's the definition of black nationalism

    "(especially in the US) advocacy of or support for unity and political self-determination for black people, especially in the form of a separate black nation."

    Here's the definition of white nationalism

    "one of a group of militant whites who espouse white supremacy and advocate enforced racial segregation"

    Are these two the same ??

  • Jul 26, 2020
    Hi-C

    The nationalist part is yes but it still is the same line of thinking. You’re engaging in racism by trying to combat it. It’s the same logic and it’s not good. Especially the anti-Semitism.

    It’s not though. See the other dude’s post above me

  • Jul 26, 2020
    Maga Law

    Ain’t this the Old testament

    It’s the final book of the New Testament

  • Hi-C 🦌
    Jul 26, 2020
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    FRITZD

    Blacks aren’t going to get ahead using white owned banks and white owned trading ports

    So segregating and telling shire people they aren’t allowed to live somewhere is the solution? Pretty f***ing trash idea. Separate the oppression piece and break down what you’re actually suggesting. It doesn’t make it right to hold those beliefs even if black people have been extremely oppressed. I’m saying this as a half black person myself

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    Oblivion X
    • asks me do I know the definition of a black nationalist then uses it incorrectly

    Here's the definition of black nationalism

    "(especially in the US) advocacy of or support for unity and political self-determination for black people, especially in the form of a separate black nation."

    Here's the definition of white nationalism

    "one of a group of militant whites who espouse white supremacy and advocate enforced racial segregation"

    Are these two the same ??

    But they’re literally advocating for the same things despite their different ideologies behind it. It’s still racist to create an ethnostate where only black people can govern it. Sorry dude you’re not gonna change my f***ing mind

  • Jul 26, 2020
    Hi-C

    So segregating and telling shire people they aren’t allowed to live somewhere is the solution? Pretty f***ing trash idea. Separate the oppression piece and break down what you’re actually suggesting. It doesn’t make it right to hold those beliefs even if black people have been extremely oppressed. I’m saying this as a half black person myself

    The solution is making black owned banks and black owned trade agreements, which in my opinion is impossible under the current government. So yeah, I think a separate black government is necessary to end the dispossession black communities face on a daily basis.
    Not in itself, I just don’t see any other options.

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    Hi-C

    But they’re literally advocating for the same things despite their different ideologies behind it. It’s still racist to create an ethnostate where only black people can govern it. Sorry dude you’re not gonna change my f***ing mind

    But ur literally as in definition wise just wrong tho

    Black people advocating for self sufficiency when they're at the bottom of the social and economic chain in america and s*** on by all facets of america isnt the same as white nationalism, which is just an overlapping term for white supremacy

  • Jul 26, 2020
    stingray

    This the NS logic.

    no clue what ns is

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    Oblivion X

    But ur literally as in definition wise just wrong tho

    Black people advocating for self sufficiency when they're at the bottom of the social and economic chain in america and s*** on by all facets of america isnt the same as white nationalism, which is just an overlapping term for white supremacy

    You're going by some very clearly agenda-driven definitions. A view of your group as superior and forced separation into ethnostates are staples of racial nationalism, regardless of the race in question. And they all use the same language like "self-determination".

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    capnchronic

    You're going by some very clearly agenda-driven definitions. A view of your group as superior and forced separation into ethnostates are staples of racial nationalism, regardless of the race in question. And they all use the same language like "self-determination".

    White supremacists took that language from black nationalists to seem more appealing. Stealing words, iconography, and symbols doesn’t make two groups the same. Are the Hindus the same as Nazis? Are Socialists?

  • Jul 26, 2020
    CKL TML

    I feel like the world might end one of these days. Too much weird s*** going on

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    capnchronic

    You're going by some very clearly agenda-driven definitions. A view of your group as superior and forced separation into ethnostates are staples of racial nationalism, regardless of the race in question. And they all use the same language like "self-determination".

    Huh ? These are literally the definition of those terms tho can easily search them up

    And where in the black nationalism definition I posted did u see the idea of a race being superior than another. Nationalism doesnt always equal supremacy

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    Oblivion X

    But ur literally as in definition wise just wrong tho

    Black people advocating for self sufficiency when they're at the bottom of the social and economic chain in america and s*** on by all facets of america isnt the same as white nationalism, which is just an overlapping term for white supremacy

    Rolling back to segregation,ultra conservatism and racial caste systems is basically a nuclear "every race for themselves" scenario ,especially in america. Having a black ethnostate or ethnostates in general dooms us to conflict in the future especially on a planet that is being depleted of its resources. Also would you really expect a black ethno-state to get the same treatment and privileges in the united states as others? Would we get the same amount of investments and favoritism from the federal government that the other states do? Intersectionality and breaking down racial barriers is the only way to have real peace because people will be able to identify with eachother than see eachother as the "other". My biggest problem with black nationalists is that they dont deconstruct the racial ideology that oppresses us in the U.S they empower it.

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    FRITZD

    White supremacists took that language from black nationalists to seem more appealing. Stealing words, iconography, and symbols doesn’t make two groups the same. Are the Hindus the same as Nazis? Are Socialists?

    newyorker.com/news/on-religion/the-violent-toll-of-hindu-nationalism-in-india\
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Bolshevism

  • Jul 26, 2020
    Bhri555

    “Imma Israelite, don’t call me Black no mo” - YAH

    “The African Americans, Hispanic and Native American Indians are the true Jews of Israel” - FEAR

    Is this not the same ideology Jay is tweeting about ?

    "See, in a perfect world, I'll choose faith over riches
    I'll choose work over b****es, I'll make schools out of prison
    I'll take all the religions and put 'em all in one service
    Just to tell 'em we ain't s***, but He's been perfect, world"

  • 6isco 🦈
    Jul 26, 2020

    been known his album was propaganda to recruit people into Islam

  • Jul 26, 2020

    Imma just dust off this classic

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    ucantlickyourelbow

    https://www.newyorker.com/news/on-religion/the-violent-toll-of-hindu-nationalism-in-india\
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Bolshevism

    Don’t you see how your views on this are pathological? You’re cherry-picking based on the words and symbols at hand. Your views are not based on the reality of what those philosophies actually do in the real world.

  • Jul 26, 2020
    ucantlickyourelbow

    Rolling back to segregation,ultra conservatism and racial caste systems is basically a nuclear "every race for themselves" scenario ,especially in america. Having a black ethnostate or ethnostates in general dooms us to conflict in the future especially on a planet that is being depleted of its resources. Also would you really expect a black ethno-state to get the same treatment and privileges in the united states as others? Would we get the same amount of investments and favoritism from the federal government that the other states do? Intersectionality and breaking down racial barriers is the only way to have real peace because people will be able to identify with eachother than see eachother as the "other". My biggest problem with black nationalists is that they dont deconstruct the racial ideology that oppresses us in the U.S they empower it.

    I get what ur tryna say but black nationalism doesn't inherently mean black separatism

    So me defending black nationalism isnt the same as me defending the idea of separating into a black ethno state. It's me defending the idea of black empowerment and black solidarity

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