oh man
Ye probably does too because he also capes for Farrakhan
i meant hov stands with him but wont rock with ye
You can’t just deflect and claim people “oh aren’t real Muslims” whenever people who subscribe to the religion do s***ty and terrible things
It speaks to deflection and a lack of accountability
Only people who don't know much about Islam say stuff like that (not trying to be rude). There are clear basic principles that, if you break them or don't believe in them, take you automatically out of the fold of Islam, and they are well defined. I'm not gonna get into specifics but for example if you don't believe (or think they are wrong) in the 5 pillars of Islam or in the 7 articles of faith you are a non-muslim, no matter what you yourself believe you to be. This is something agreed on by ALL islamic scholars for the last 1400 years (obviously it's more nuanced, you can be excused if you didn't fully understand something etc., just used that as an example).
It's no different then me saying I'm a socialist but don't believe that workers should own the means of production, or saying I'm a christian but not believing in Jesus etc. It's not gatekeeping or a 'No True Scotsman' situation.
If you want to know what beliefs that NoI hold are that take them out of Islam, well I could write a whole essay on that.
i meant hov stands with him but wont rock with ye
What's the real reason behind that btw? Beyonce's problem with Kim? Ye f***ing up his money? A fear of mentally ill people?
What's the real reason behind that btw? Beyonce's problem with Kim? Ye f***ing up his money? A fear of mentally ill people?
But you ain't a saint, this ain't kumbaye/But you got hurt because you did cool by 'Ye/You gave him 20 million without blinkin'/He gave you 20 minutes on stage, f*** was he thinkin'?"
Only people who don't know much about Islam say stuff like that (not trying to be rude). There are clear basic principles that, if you break them or don't believe in them, take you automatically out of the fold of Islam, and they are well defined. I'm not gonna get into specifics but for example if you don't believe (or think they are wrong) in the 5 pillars of Islam or in the 7 articles of faith you are a non-muslim, no matter what you yourself believe you to be. This is something agreed on by ALL islamic scholars for the last 1400 years (obviously it's more nuanced, you can be excused if you didn't fully understand something etc., just used that as an example).
It's no different then me saying I'm a socialist but don't believe that workers should own the means of production, or saying I'm a christian but not believing in Jesus etc. It's not gatekeeping or a 'No True Scotsman' situation.
If you want to know what beliefs that NoI hold are that take them out of Islam, well I could write a whole essay on that.
Yes all of this is true, but it's a lil different with the noi cause they believe and preach all those 5 pillars but have a different interpretation than mainstream islam
What's the real reason behind that btw? Beyonce's problem with Kim? Ye f***ing up his money? A fear of mentally ill people?
Hov has slighted ye a lot, he didnt go to his wedding or even call him and didn't let ye kids play with his and ye did his rant in Sacramento
But you ain't a saint, this ain't kumbaye/But you got hurt because you did cool by 'Ye/You gave him 20 million without blinkin'/He gave you 20 minutes on stage, f*** was he thinkin'?"
Ye had a full blown manic episode - completely detached from reality and having no self control, yet Hov will never forgive him for making him lose $20m.
Then again not surprised, business men are cold like that.
Jay Elect dropping more truth bombs synagogues of satan mad af
You can literally check the Talmud to see if it actually says the Jesus is “burning in excrement.” It doesn’t
Hov has slighted ye a lot, he didnt go to his wedding or even call him and didn't let ye kids play with his and ye did his rant in Sacramento
Damn
Couldn't tell you 4 songs from it off top.
That’s what’s up
I honestly wish these f***ing clowns named their organization something other than the Nation of Islam.
As always, non-Muslims posing as Muslims bringing a bad name to real Islam everywhere, lesser-informed people are gonna think we’re associated with these identity-crisis having lunatics.
Muhammad Ali AND Malcolm X (easily two of the most prominent ex-members of this cult) denounced it and embraced REAL Islam and performed their pilgrimages (God grant both of them heaven).
REAL Muslims who actually follow the teachings of the prophet always smell like rosey perfumed oil, candy & expensive fabrics. We wash ourselves 5 times a day & don’t consume alcohol & pork. The smelly f***s who most of you meet on the regular aren’t REAL Muslims lmao, as a foundation of our teaching is to stay CLEAN & PURE.
Are you going around smelling people and learning their belief system through scent?
F*** are you on?
Yes all of this is true, but it's a lil different with the noi cause they believe and preach all those 5 pillars but have a different interpretation than mainstream islam
I just used that as an example. But here's one of the reason why they aren't considered mainstream Islam: I'm sure you know that the Quran is considered the literal word of god to muslims, meaning you can't disagree with even a single word because then you aren't a "muslim" (muslim = follower of God). Believing there are mistakes or that some verses are wrong or disagreeing with something = takes you out of Islam (again, this is more nuanced but you get the point).
Now, NoI has a really strange view of the Prophet Yakub. Here's a link: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yakub_(Nation_of_Islam)
This completely goes against what the Quran says about Yakub and that takes them out of Islam.
I could give you more examples, but I don't want to derail this thread too much.
I just used that as an example. But here's one of the reason why they aren't considered mainstream Islam: I'm sure you know that the Quran is considered the literal word of god to muslims, meaning you can't disagree with even a single word because then you aren't a "muslim" (muslim = follower of God). Believing there are mistakes or that some verses are wrong or disagreeing with something = takes you out of Islam (again, this is more nuanced but you get the point).
Now, NoI has a really strange view of the Prophet Yakub. Here's a link: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yakub_(Nation_of_Islam)
This completely goes against what the Quran says about Yakub and that takes them out of Islam.
I could give you more examples, but I don't want to derail this thread too much.
Nah I agree I'm muslim and I dont consider them muslims, I was just pointing out ur point bout the 5 pillars. I considered them an off shoot of islam in a similar way that Christians are sort of a offshoot of judaism
Lol imagine him and Ye having a convo rn
I'd pay for a 2 hour sitdown between Kanye and Jay Elec
Revelation 2:9
I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan
Revelation 3:9
Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee
For reference
New testament .. tgat shouldnt be taken seriously