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  • Sep 1, 2022
    DaeHan

    I’m not talking about ALL people, but it does rub me the wrong way when I see people hating on another black man that’s made it.

    I can’t speak for everyone, but I’ve never propped him up as some savior.

    Is what Jay is saying about credit true? Yes.
    Do we need to here more of that? Yes

    Would you rather him rap about women, guns and d**** at this age?

    So its ok for dudes to prop Future up as a toxic savior (I’ve seen this several times), but wrong to try to follow in Jay’s footsteps?

    I’m just trying to gain clarity as to why people are mad at Jay.

    Bro you’re really gonna bring up the “hating on a black man” card. Nobody is even really hating on him.

    People propping up Future as a “toxic savior” is a meme. Most people are able to understand that it’s a joke.

    “Would you rather him rap about women and d****

    one of his biggest sources of income is liquor

  • Sep 1, 2022
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    Human Hunnid Emoji

    i only care to be stable financially, i don’t need some extreme abundant amount lol again there’s no reason one person should have that much wealth, it literally only promotes individualism and f***ing other people over who provide that value

    it’s clear once a person reach that amount of wealth is not just for them to spend and “hoard” it’s for their descendant

    everyone is inherently greedy in nature even if you deny it seems like you’re virtue signaling

    I don’t view it as “fucking other people over” more as opportunities for them to provide for themselves and the products create the value.

  • DaeHan

    I’m not talking about ALL people, but it does rub me the wrong way when I see people hating on another black man that’s made it.

    I can’t speak for everyone, but I’ve never propped him up as some savior.

    Is what Jay is saying about credit true? Yes.
    Do we need to here more of that? Yes

    Would you rather him rap about women, guns and d**** at this age?

    So its ok for dudes to prop Future up as a toxic savior (I’ve seen this several times), but wrong to try to follow in Jay’s footsteps?

    I’m just trying to gain clarity as to why people are mad at Jay.

    there’s a big difference between hating and critique big dawg

  • Sep 1, 2022
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    Mitch Baker

    it’s clear once a person reach that amount of wealth is not just for them to spend and “hoard” it’s for their descendant

    everyone is inherently greedy in nature even if you deny it seems like you’re virtue signaling

    I don’t view it as “fucking other people over” more as opportunities for them to provide for themselves and the products create the value.

    there are no clean handed billionaires, and again as far as black people are concerned, money (alone at least, much less so with comparatively few wealthy black ppl) will not save us
    i don’t believe we’re inherently greedy but that’s a nature vs nurture thing, we’re just malleable from the second we can have coherent thoughts
    also does the worker not provide the value? damn sure don’t b the nigga that b taking the credit

  • Sep 1, 2022
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    Human Hunnid Emoji

    there are no clean handed billionaires, and again as far as black people are concerned, money (alone at least, much less so with comparatively few wealthy black ppl) will not save us
    i don’t believe we’re inherently greedy but that’s a nature vs nurture thing, we’re just malleable from the second we can have coherent thoughts
    also does the worker not provide the value? damn sure don’t b the nigga that b taking the credit

    Agree with your first point. I don’t like when people act like Kanye, jay and Rihanna types becoming billionaires is some type of win for all black people.

  • Sep 1, 2022
    KIN

    “Before it was the American dream pull yourself by the bootstraps these lies America told us our whole life. Then when we start getting it they start making up words like ‘capitalist’” real

    “I arrived on the day fred hampton died”

    🤣

  • Sep 1, 2022
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    CrimsonArk

    No I wouldn’t, because I have no interests in being a billionaire, same as I have no interests in wielding power.

    I see what it does to people, and it’s not worth it, especially not in this mortal coil.

    Using the “it’s just human nature” argument is the stupidest f***ing response too, because you could justify, say, racism, with that exact logic.

    “I have no interests in wielding power. I simply have opinions regarding how society can and should be totally reorganized for the better.”

  • SHAQUILLE

    Agree with your first point. I don’t like when people act like Kanye, jay and Rihanna types becoming billionaires is some type of win for all black people.

    if one make it we all make it stop playing bro

  • Sep 1, 2022
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    gabapentin

    “I have no interests in wielding power. I simply have opinions regarding how society can and should be totally reorganized for the better.”

    …huh?

    I don’t understand the point you’re trying to make.

    Are you saying because I expressed an opinion that means I desire power?

  • Sep 1, 2022
    TZ2

    Feel like in the last 5 years everything became about race, thought we were getting past that

    I feel like the fact that Hov notices that it’s harder than it used to be to simply appeal to Black Entrepreneurism to get poor and broke people to give his sack a tongue bath is a movement in the opposite direction from “race = everything”

  • Sep 1, 2022
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    CrimsonArk

    …huh?

    I don’t understand the point you’re trying to make.

    Are you saying because I expressed an opinion that means I desire power?

    I don’t really know what else wanting massive wealth (wealth = power) redistribution would signal

  • Sep 1, 2022
    CrimsonArk

    No, I’m not saying that. Anyone is capable of it given the right history and backing, but it’s a weakness that should be stamped out in a society that is supposed to function as a collective.

    The entire purpose of society is to mitigate misery, to ensure everyone the best chance of survival, otherwise what’s the point? If someone is, at the expense of others, attempting to secure a better position for surviving than others, and the core systems of that society have a tendency to give those types of people preferential treatment, then that is a problem that should be addressed, otherwise your society is a failure when the inevitable happens.

    Or are you saying that all of this is true but nevertheless you don’t actually have any interest in bringing a reformation of society to be fairer about?

  • Sep 1, 2022
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    gabapentin

    I don’t really know what else wanting massive wealth (wealth = power) redistribution would signal

    Concentrated wealth is power. Saturated wealth. If you distribute it among the many it’s no longer concentrated, thus power is dispersed. Everyone collectively gains a little more power through the shift (or rather, gains the influence that they should have to begin with and are constantly presented as possessing through propaganda i.e. “the Will of the People”).

    I don’t desire power to rise beyond what I need at the cost of others with the intent of preserving it further with additional cost to them.

  • Sep 3, 2022
    CrimsonArk

    Concentrated wealth is power. Saturated wealth. If you distribute it among the many it’s no longer concentrated, thus power is dispersed. Everyone collectively gains a little more power through the shift (or rather, gains the influence that they should have to begin with and are constantly presented as possessing through propaganda i.e. “the Will of the People”).

    I don’t desire power to rise beyond what I need at the cost of others with the intent of preserving it further with additional cost to them.

    You talk about the distribution of money in the second person but obviously this sort of redistribution entails an exertion of power to create the conditions for everyone to have equal means and influence (power)

    Acknowledging that power is concentrated and many are deprived of it, in what way can the redistribution be brought about without an exertion of greater power through force? I understand the argument that it’s a fairer and more just use of power, but the idea that a forceful redistribution of wealth is just, so it’s not power, is not a useful or honest paradigm

    It’s okay to want to exert power to make the world a better place, and I understand you mean to say that you don’t desire to engage the gratuitous exploitation of oligarchy, but semantic equivocation about how the revolution will bring about a better word without certain people buckling under the weight of a greater power (which some other vague persons will exert) is frankly utopian. It’s okay and human to desire some measure of power (even vicariously), but those who claim they don't when they do disproportionately abuse it

  • OP
    Sep 3, 2022

    Longer version

  • Sep 3, 2022
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    KIN

    “Before it was the American dream pull yourself by the bootstraps these lies America told us our whole life. Then when we start getting it they start making up words like ‘capitalist’” real

  • Sep 3, 2022
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    gabapentin

    “I have no interests in wielding power. I simply have opinions regarding how society can and should be totally reorganized for the better.”

    Everybody has ideas for how society should be organized. So is everybody just a cynical power hungry mf with no actual interest in improving society?

  • Sep 3, 2022
    gabapentin

    I don’t really know what else wanting massive wealth (wealth = power) redistribution would signal

    U srs or what

  • Sep 3, 2022
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    Scratchin Mamba
    !https://youtu.be/jnlYA00Ffwo

    Chairman Fred was just 21. The man was ahead of his time

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    slyTendencies

    Chairman Fred was just 21. The man was ahead of his time

    He woulda turned 74 just a couple of days ago

  • Scratchin Mamba

    He woulda turned 74 just a couple of days ago

    At least Akua and Fred Jr still here and doing good work

  • Sep 3, 2022
    Oblivion X
    https://twitter.com/jai1aa/status/1565333471769382913

  • Sep 4, 2022

    How has no reason to not know some basic information like this. This is like thinking Europe is a country or some s***. Knowing this is wrong has nothing to do with knowing about the evils of capitalism.

    This is obscene misinformation and should be treated on the same level if not worse than the ye slavery was a choice moment

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