Wayne is mos def better than Hov but you still cant say HOV is not a goat lol

I get why Jay is considered top 5 but the cap that people be talking about him be having me question mfs lol. All the publicity stunts he pulled

Freestyling. Exactly. Niggas couldn’t event write half the s*** he freestyled

That's fine, but that's not top notch lyricism. It's a different energy. It's lightning in a bottle.

Bruh Wayne’s energy was crazy lol. Didn’t even matter the production. No one else could say half the s*** he said and make it sound clean. Only a few could pull that off. Except Em, BIG, ODB. Theirs way more but that’s off the top

Em is an autistic level writer. Biggie put together some really complex narratives. ODB is a good comparison. I'm guessing a lot of his stuff was improvisation. At least the delivery of it.

Em autistic
Can’t be proven tbh, dude has a s***load of unreleased music that the label protects like FBI Files.
look at his leaks

BIG just didn’t have a chance to fully grow. You can tell he was reaching to that point. Same with Pac, Pac was close to being in his “lyrical” bag right before he was murdered

Jay Z is definitely the GOAT

Man either way it don't matter.

It's only a matter of time before Drake is considered the goat anyway

choosing the actual GOAT is personal opinion but Hov is undisputed in the top 5

The hate is strong with this one.

And I'm a Jay-Z hater. His character is heavily flawed.

But musically? The guy is always gonna be on raps Mt. Rushmore. Hes solidified.

He's the GOAT for what hes been able to accomplish through Hip-Hop and as a shrewd businessman.

Idgaf if Drake makes 100 billion in his career, he'll never be more respected and revered then Jay-Z.

We get it we understand who you d*** eat

Kids don’t know s***

yep all they do is listen to "real rappers" like jay so it makes sense why theyd think hes the goat, wait till they discover ye

We got kids in here saying Wayne better than Jay after No Ceilings,Lil Wayne’s raps barely make any sense

It's about sliders, not just one thing. Like I always say: Jay is the only hall of fame rapper who is so high in important criteria across the board - anyone else near his level falls in some category

I know we all young niggas on this site who came up in a post-Grad/Crank Dat Soulja Boy/Carter III rap landscape where being a WWE type superstar rapper where quotables and catchy singsong hooks is enough to make you a GOAT, but...it's more than that in rap

Jay is more than that. He is all of that

It’s okay bud. Being ignorant is common.

this is such a bad thread holy s*** lmao

Same flow? U on crack