Apr 3, 2020I highly disagree
Apr 3, 2020
CarlSweatpants4:44 still in rotation. Which trips me out cus it makes me realize how many albums dont got staying power like that
nah i still enjoy the album, was just commenting on his relevance w the general public.
Apr 3, 2020·1 replyDidn't read your OP just came into say that you're a f***ing f agg o t and I hope your parents catch corona
Apr 3, 2020OP thread backfired.
F***ing dumbass.
Apr 3, 2020Literally your favorite rapper's favorite rapper
Apr 3, 2020
yungboieziNo this an't a Wavy Santana Thread, and yes I said it, Jay Z is overrated, here's why:
He doesn't really have the star power people thinks he has, he's been overshadowed by Em, 50 and Wayne in his prime.
Niggas talk about his pen but he has bit lines from Biggie for years, even copied his cadence on some of his songs too.
People claim 4:44 is one of his most critically acclaimed albums but he had to fix numbers to go fake plat & he couldn't even go on tour because those same fans weren't showing up to his shows.
Him and his wife had to fake a whole cheating scandal to sell records
He claims he's for black culture but he has worked with the biggest culture vulture in Lyor Cohen, donated to an organization cuts the hair of black people and sell it for profit and Now he's working with the NFL after making his "protest" by not performing at the Superbowl.
Niggas claim he's influential but he hasn't influenced a single rapper, music wise.
1) He doesn't really have the star power people thinks he has, he's been overshadowed by Em, 50 and Wayne in his prime.
How?
2) Niggas talk about his pen but he has bit lines from Biggie for years, even copied his cadence on some of his songs too.
So discredit his entire discography because he paid homage to biggie on a few songs? got it.
3) People claim 4:44 is one of his most critically acclaimed albums but he had to fix numbers to go fake plat & he couldn't even go on tour because those same fans weren't showing up to his shows.
What does sales have to do with critical acclaim?
4) Him and his wife had to fake a whole cheating scandal to sell records.
Some lovely s***posting right here.
5) He claims he's for black culture but he has worked with the biggest culture vulture in Lyor Cohen, donated to an organization cuts the hair of black people and sell it for profit and Now he's working with the NFL after making his "protest" by not performing at the Superbowl.
What does this have to do with his music?
6) Niggas claim he's influential but he hasn't influenced a single rapper, music wise.
This is quite possibly the only "argument" you have, and even this is flawed. Everybody wanted to be Jay, maybe not musically but career-wise and business-wise. Nobody could do what he did musically because he and Nas had that s*** locked, so anyone who tried to do it wouldn't be noticed. With that being said, you can look at dudes like Fabolous, Cam'ron, and a whole bunch of new york rappers from the mid 00's who tried to emulate his style.
- Apr 13, 2020
The Retiring Manehip hop deadass the only genre where its cool to s*** on the legends my g
its the most accessible genre and its been whitewashed
disgusting honestly
Oct 17, 2020
DuragDillingerI am a Jay stan, and I agree with this.
Jay is little more than a very clever s***-talker that can flow. But he's so slick that he can con you into thinking he's the best. He's also incredible at making you invest in his career because of his ability to address personal and relatable, even if mundane, s*** in a profound way -- this is something you can tell Drake learned from Jay early on.
Put Jay next to real elite rapper's-favorite-rappers like Redman, Kool G Rap, Big Pun, BDK, Rakim, and of course BIG, and he gets dusted every time.
As far as his business s***, an argument can be made that he's just being pragmatic; only two things have the ability to change existing order in America, and that is money or the bullet box. By buying up these franchises and institutions like the NFL, he can tip the scales in the favor of black folks without ever firing a single shot or relying on the 'goodwill' of some f***ing politicians. But he could just be in it for self, only time will tell.
Nah fam you might be talkin' about his business tactics but this doesn't correspond to his art.
- Oct 17, 2020The Retiring Mane
hip hop deadass the only genre where its cool to s*** on the legends my g
Yeah it's tragic
Oct 17, 2020·1 replyBiggie most overrated
bMass28 🤰🏻Oct 17, 2020coltrup
most of this is cap but i gotta keep it real with yall. are people still feeling jay like that ? 4:44 tour part is lowkey trueI saw him for the 4:44 tour, what was wrong with it?
- Oct 17, 2020·1 replyYeezus2019
Biggie most overrated
Dude u been on a crazy bait run lately
- Oct 17, 2020·2 repliesSmoochill
Dude u been on a crazy bait run lately
Not even top 5
Nas
Lupe
Jay
Pac
Kanye
Oct 17, 2020Yeezus2019Not even top 5
Nas
Lupe
Jay
Pac
Kanye Lupe over biggie smalls
U serious
Oct 17, 2020yungboieziIm not even a push fan
I am, and I’m not ready to absorb the truthful energy of this fact alone
- Oct 17, 2020Yeezus2019
Not even top 5
Nas
Lupe
Jay
Pac
Kanye Not even your top 5 bait post today. You slipping
Oct 17, 2020watch the throneDidn't read your OP just came into say that you're a f***ing f agg o t and I hope your parents catch corona
real.
Oct 17, 2020to me he's always been overrated but mostly lived up to his reputation on 4:44 and AWT. Still think his capitalism talk is corny tho
Oct 17, 2020Idk man once you know his story leading up to and during Reasonable Doubt, it’s hard not to consider him a legendary man. His hustle is what influenced the streets, his steez and effortless attitude influenced the culture, and his music influenced artists to create expressive and personalized hiphop. 50 wanted to be Jay Z. Kanye wanted to be Jay Z. Wayne wanted to be Jay Z. He’s the definitive figure head of modern hiphop because he encompasses everything about it.
Oct 17, 2020I really don’t rock with jay like yhat
Oct 17, 2020·1 replyJust no
- Oct 17, 2020EuroNymous
Just no
- Oct 17, 2020·1 reply
The guy is been relevant for 25 years for a reason