Its an old argument at this point but stability is a huge factor why he stayed at that position. DMX, 50, Eminem and Ye, Wayne later on were all running laps around him but he just stuck in that top 5 spot for most of his career. He didn’t do anything new with the music but much like Drake, he could see what sound was coming up and put his own spin on it

I feel Jay's longevitiy is due to him knowing how to politic and play the game rather than his musical ability.

Even with Drake it is at least a combination of both. Drake is still relevant for the music.

Jay is relevant for his moves.

I said "he might" so chill out bro, Jay-Z has multiple classic albums wheter you like it or not. There are multiple examples and I'm not going to post every single classic Jay-Z song I'm sorry
Go listen to his discography and tell me why he shouldn't be objectively regarded as one of the best rappers ever

Just to clarify even if you're clearly trolling: I said "pure" rapper, he may not be the greatest artist but I don't know if there's anyone objectively that better than him AT RAPPING

This man is trying to say Blueprint isn't a classic hip hop album lol whatever to each his own I guess. "Politics" yeah

camel only has 2 good albums, black album and watch the throne
he's super overrated and heavily depended on collabs.

i love the jay z is overrated bait here’s your engagement OP hope you get the 20 pages you’re looking for

jay consistently updated his sound and never sounded out of touch or out of depth outside of a few bp3 songs but that whole era people were doing music that aged terribly. he told his story and there are better pure lyricists, better flowers, more versatile, but nobody is better as a total package than jay and has more longevity than anyone that’s ever done this

blueprint and black album essentially have no features what are we talking about

Nah he’s definitely overrated. He had his slaps. More than anything, he’s a horrible human tbh. Surprised they ain’t coming for him for how he acted around minors

And how he treated his homies. Dmx wasn’t a fan

m.youtube.com/watch?v=YW4FBd2-o5g

he can be. Just depends on who you're talking to

DMX is better

If you’re under 24 I completely understand you not understanding why jayz is the goat until it becomes Kendrick.

Jay Z in 2024 is legitimately underrated its not even close

He properly rated, him only having his music on tidal made him miss out on the zoomer audience and now most Hovengers got grey hair.

op cooked

Before you say some dumb s*** like that again, remember this is the first verse to a song that wasn’t well received at the time

Who be, in a Japanese restaurant, eating sushi
Drinking sake, it's me, and my mami with the doobie
Cutie, smelling like Miyake, half-Phillipine thing
For now, let's call her Suki, got me, booty banging
Properly, in Versace pants, cocky bow-legged stance
A thing of beauty, watch me, body crazy
T*** Firm like Nature, Foxy, Nas and AZ
Truly reason to bust the toolie and keep laced in jewelry, watch me
Girlie tried to lure me and lock me you gotta get up early
'Cause who's getting played is not me
"Surely you jest, " she said, "if you thought I was purely
Out for the bucks you woulda bucked stuck and dropped me"
I said maturely, "You right
But better safe than sorry, but for the lovebirds
Can move to the suburbs, I need to double check your story
To make sure that you one of a kind
And you deserve to be my sunshine"

Op stfu

4:44 was last album and it’s one of his best, he never fell off, he chose to stay out. If he drops an album tomorrow, it’s getting a lot of attention, way more than anyone else from his era.

Kanye has a better discography - the best in hip-hop (even though his recent output is making this a less and less true statement), but Hov is a far better rapper than Kanye while Kanye’s discography is not far better than Jay’s. Jay has a top 5 rap discography of all time. Kanye is not a top 5 rapper of all time.

A wise man told me don’t argue with fools

This how I know OP is truly scraping the bottom of the barrel for thread interaction.

It's time to pack it up bozo.

Man shut the f*** up lmao

In My Lifetime Vol 1, The Black Album, and The Blueprint aren't classics anymore according to KTT user Omega...what a stupid f***in d***head

Stfu

y'all niggas are after KTT clout like homeless men are after crack istg