Oct 30, 2025
GoshAnywhere in the states is not neutral for Drake right now sadly
nah this not true lol
Oct 30, 2025Sorry ya'll can claim Hip Hop knowledge, you don't know statistics
- Gosh 😹Oct 30, 2025·1 replyCorporate Mór· edited
50% of 35+ year olds (age range defined below by Amir) in the building let's say slightly skewed towards men
First off: the core hip-hop/rap audience in the US is under 35 (Pew Research and Nielsen Music Reports). Roughly 60 to 70% of rap listeners fall between ages 16 to 34. So immediately half the room is older than average. (Nielsen Music Reports)
Drake’s first big hits came around 2009 to 2010, meaning his original fans (then teens and early 20s) are now in their early to late 30s and has accumulated a new fanbase since 2016 (Billboard)
His largest listener segment is ages 25 to 34, followed by 18 to 24 (YouTube a***ytics)A typical Drake show leans under 35, more gender-even, and feels closer to a pop-rap generational mix than a legacy-artist crowd
Drake: 60 to 65% (ChartMasters, Boardroom)
Jay-Z: 35 to 40% (ChartMasters, Boardroom)
https://chartmasters.org/streaming-masters-jay-zAssume Verzuz holds 5,000 people,
Drake: 3,000 to 3,250 fans
Jay-Z: 1,750 to 2,000 fansWhy is Jay Z holding 50%of the room?
Because those stats don’t matter it will just be about who is able to get in the room, it won’t be decided a***ytically
- Oct 30, 2025·1 replyGosh
Because those stats don’t matter it will just be about who is able to get in the room, it won’t be decided a***ytically
No people in the room are statistically more likely to f*** with Drake. It is implausible to fill this room with more people rocking with Jay Z unless you literally hosted it in New York
- Gosh 😹Oct 30, 2025·1 reply
How many fans of each in attendance won’t be decided by who gets streamed the most in Montana
Oct 30, 2025·3 repliesJay Z has performed in more international stadiums than any other rapper ever and people in here saying he wouldn’t win anywhere outside of New York
I have no words
- Oct 30, 2025Gosh
How many fans of each in attendance won’t be decided by who gets streamed the most in Montana
Exactly. All I'm saying is focus on the demographic. It's not a landslide like ya'll are claiming. Imagine it's all online like 2020?
goretex 💁🏽♂️Oct 30, 2025·2 repliesTheFaderJay Z has performed in more international stadiums than any other rapper ever and people in here saying he wouldn’t win anywhere outside of New York
I have no words
no one even said this s*** dumbass
- Oct 30, 2025·1 replyTheFader
Jay Z has performed in more international stadiums than any other rapper ever and people in here saying he wouldn’t win anywhere outside of New York
I have no words
Come on you're underestimating how big Drake is now
- Gosh 😹Oct 30, 2025·1 replyCorporate Mór
No people in the room are statistically more likely to f*** with Drake. It is implausible to fill this room with more people rocking with Jay Z unless you literally hosted it in New York
They would have to literally show up, those stats include a lot of people who aren’t even hip hop fans to begin with or go to shows. It’s not as cut and dry
- Oct 30, 2025·1 replygoretex
no one even said this s*** dumbass
You basically did dumbass
Oct 30, 2025Jay Z ain't winning against Kanye or Drake, if the crowd isn't hip-hop purists imo. Even then you would have to factor in the generation of crowd. I was just thinking how crazy it is how little Jay's hits are celebrated.
- Oct 30, 2025goretex
no one even said this s*** dumbass
there was one person that said jay z isnt big internationally and would lose against other international artists
- Oct 30, 2025Corporate Mór
Come on you're underestimating how big Drake is now
I didn’t say anything about Drake
I’m saying the people implying that Jay is some “local” artist are completely wrong
- Oct 30, 2025Gosh
They would have to literally show up, those stats include a lot of people who aren’t even hip hop fans to begin with or go to shows. It’s not as cut and dry
I agree with you it's not cut and dry for sure but the probability that people see Drake's name for a live show and aren't flocking to it is really unlikely
- Gosh 😹Oct 30, 2025·2 replies
There are tons of people who would beat Taylor Swift in a Verzuz and we all know her stats
Oct 30, 2025·2 repliesshould do verzuz the way they be doing them UK clash battles. Have it like a festival, 2 stages close together, artist going back and forth battling like that. That changes the kind of records that will get played. So the setting matters. But all that is superfluous, Drake Stan’s can’t even put together a solid 20 of his pure rap/hip hop records
- goretex 💁🏽♂️Oct 30, 2025·1 replyTheFader
You basically did dumbass
i said the MASON DIXON LINE
THE SOUTH IDIOT
no one said international, cause if i did i woulda said drake is wiping his ass down across the world in any country other than america maybe he'll have to really fight in paris cause they love bey and drake
Oct 30, 2025·1 replyCorporate MórI ask you all to be very literal: imagine Hov for whatever reason agreed to this. What do you think the demographic of the crowd is?
Have you ever seen a live VZ and looked at the crowd man
- Oct 30, 2025rather late
Have you ever seen a live VZ and looked at the crowd man
For sure but they never had a Drake type
- Oct 30, 2025Babaláwo
should do verzuz the way they be doing them UK clash battles. Have it like a festival, 2 stages close together, artist going back and forth battling like that. That changes the kind of records that will get played. So the setting matters. But all that is superfluous, Drake Stan’s can’t even put together a solid 20 of his pure rap/hip hop records
Oh damn lol
- Oct 30, 2025·1 replygoretex
i said the MASON DIXON LINE
THE SOUTH IDIOT
no one said international, cause if i did i woulda said drake is wiping his ass down across the world in any country other than america maybe he'll have to really fight in paris cause they love bey and drake
Jay has touched stadium stages overseas
Has Drake?
Oct 30, 2025·4 repliesNoFacethis s*** cant be in new york, thats an automatic win for Hov lol
gotta put this s*** in like Vegas or sumn. idk what city would be best to host this s*** tbh
Chicago
- Oct 30, 2025TheFader
Jay Z has performed in more international stadiums than any other rapper ever and people in here saying he wouldn’t win anywhere outside of New York
I have no words
to be fair, if its against another international artist like that guy was saying, then he has a point
but im sure when Hov made his statement, he was referrring to hip hop acts and not just any artist in any genre