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  • Oct 2, 2023
    Dirty

    Who cares? If his cousin has to learn the hard way then he learns the hard way

    And I’m not talking he needs to hand out to every 3rd cousin’s sister’s boyfriend

    Grandparents, parents, nieces, nephews, aunts, uncles, 1st cousins

    That’s who should get money and his best friends… if he wants to help out beyond that that’s on him but I wouldn’t judge him for not

    I was being hyperbolic about the $10M but I guarantee he could give every family member he has $1M and not even notice the dent in his bank account

    And to the point about people asking for more or whatever, that’s the stipulation you give them upfront. “I’ll give you this much, but you’re never allowed to ask me again and if you squander it that’s on you.”

    yea that's the kinda the point. He's trying to get his cousin to not learn the hard way and not waste his money.

    You don't care because it's not your money but understand this: no one likes to waste their money, even if your a billionaire.

    Even if he gave that stipulation, they would still ask after they probably blow it. And then he would be forced to say no and then his cousin/relative would be mad and claim he don't support them. That's what he explained at the end.

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    Jay Z is somewhat known for being a shiesty dude

    But he’s got a point, family will try to extort you for money when they know you got it and then won’t look your way if you go broke.

    Yeah he’s a Billionaire but imagine if he gave one of his cousins like 5Ms, I bet bruh will spend it all within 6 Months cuz it was handed to them not earned.

  • Oct 2, 2023
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    Ultimate Warrior

    F*** out of here - this dude is African, he knows how African relatives are like (especially older generations). $4800 is less than 1 cent for someone like Jay Z. He can say "there's a time and place", but he should still help.

    Aint no f*** out of here bro. We having a discussion ain’t no need to get disrespectful and heated it aint that deep lol

    To your point: He wasn’t being literal with the example of the 4800. Sounded like he just said a random number and made up a scenario based on something else that may happened to him. He started off the example saying it from Kevin Hart’s perspective too.

  • Oct 2, 2023
    Everest

    Nah bro. If you become a billionaire, it’s your duty to tell your relatives who work dog s*** jobs for a barely liveable wage to keep on grinding 🤦‍♂️

    Yeah man, there's no way to work hard and appreciate wealth unless you're 50k in debt and working a s***ty job that pulls you away from your dreams in order to survive

  • Oct 2, 2023
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    Himothee

    Aint no f*** out of here bro. We having a discussion ain’t no need to get disrespectful and heated it aint that deep lol

    To your point: He wasn’t being literal with the example of the 4800. Sounded like he just said a random number and made up a scenario based on something else that may happened to him. He started off the example saying it from Kevin Hart’s perspective too.

    Sorry about that, but plenty of people really be snakes. The problem that I have is his relative having to even ask for money in the first place for this type of s***. Jay could easily set up businesses for his family with the money he has (and maybe pay an accountant to oversee everything to make sure money isn't being wasted)

  • provider 4 u

    don't even need to watch the video, the thread is entertaining enough.

    no cap lmfao

  • Oct 2, 2023
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    Noir

    Seriously

    Money is made to be utilized, not hoarded

    Invest in your loved ones and give them the resources to reach their potential and make you proud

    They were there for you when you were down

    You missed the point.

    1. His cousin was asking this on THANKSGIVING. Thanksgiving is not suppose to be about money. He's probably trying to enjoy his time with everyone.

    2. His cousin is talking about flipping 4800 into millions. Sounds like some scam s***. He telling his cousin it doesn't work that way.

    If his cousin asked at a better time and had an actual business plan, he probably would just give it.

    No one knows what he does for his family. To assume he doesn't help anyone in his family just based off this is crazy. Listen carefully to the points he's trying to make.

  • I agree with Hov

  • Oct 2, 2023
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    tomorrow volverse
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    tbh he has a point

    Realistically he got it out the mud

    same with Kevin Hart
    most of the people that come around to ask you for money at a family function like that probably didn't even fw him all that much before he was rich and famous

    if they really had a solid relationship, they could contact him at a better time

    or at least approach with a different level of respect than running up like a fan

    its people that weren't willing to take that Risk in the beginning that feel entitled to a piece of your profits in the end & I think that's wrong

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    Ultimate Warrior

    Sorry about that, but plenty of people really be snakes. The problem that I have is his relative having to even ask for money in the first place for this type of s***. Jay could easily set up businesses for his family with the money he has (and maybe pay an accountant to oversee everything to make sure money isn't being wasted)

    I see what you saying but tbh I don’t buy the twitter narrative building up. Jay has most likely supported his extended family throughout the decades. He just never publicized it.

    Also, this interview just seems like he’s venting. When he goes to thanksgiving and Xmas dinner, he got family members looking at him like jay z the celebrity/billionaire mogul and try to pitch to him, instead of treating him like a human being and a part of the family.

    And in the scenario he plays out, he gives game to his cousin that it’s not that easy going to be easy to flip 4800 to a 2 million. Instead of just taking the L and thanking jay for some game, his cousin tries to guilt him by saying “you just don’t believe in my dreams.” That’s some snake s*** right there imo.

  • Oct 2, 2023
    Silas

    You missed the point.

    1. His cousin was asking this on THANKSGIVING. Thanksgiving is not suppose to be about money. He's probably trying to enjoy his time with everyone.

    2. His cousin is talking about flipping 4800 into millions. Sounds like some scam s***. He telling his cousin it doesn't work that way.

    If his cousin asked at a better time and had an actual business plan, he probably would just give it.

    No one knows what he does for his family. To assume he doesn't help anyone in his family just based off this is crazy. Listen carefully to the points he's trying to make.

    I wasn't responding to Jay, I was responding to someone responding to someone else responding to Jay. There's a separate discussion itt going on based on how people are interpreting what he said.

    I wouldn't be handing out 5k checks at Thanksgiving either, but the larger point of "you got to earn it to appreciate it" gets a mixed response because the capitalist system we live in is so extremely unfair, especially to blacks, that I personally view it as my responsibility to set things right for my loved ones if I have the wealth to do so.

    That's just me, not Jay. What he does with his money is his business.

  • Himothee

    I see what you saying but tbh I don’t buy the twitter narrative building up. Jay has most likely supported his extended family throughout the decades. He just never publicized it.

    Also, this interview just seems like he’s venting. When he goes to thanksgiving and Xmas dinner, he got family members looking at him like jay z the celebrity/billionaire mogul and try to pitch to him, instead of treating him like a human being and a part of the family.

    And in the scenario he plays out, he gives game to his cousin that it’s not that easy going to be easy to flip 4800 to a 2 million. Instead of just taking the L and thanking jay for some game, his cousin tries to guilt him by saying “you just don’t believe in my dreams.” That’s some snake s*** right there imo.

    Yeah it's naive of his cousin thinking he can flip a measly $4800 to $2 million. That's where education comes in - I hope Jay is helping his younger relatives get into college so that they can eventually start making money on their own (and know how to not get scammed).

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    yungcartier

    Jay Z is somewhat known for being a shiesty dude

    But he’s got a point, family will try to extort you for money when they know you got it and then won’t look your way if you go broke.

    Yeah he’s a Billionaire but imagine if he gave one of his cousins like 5Ms, I bet bruh will spend it all within 6 Months cuz it was handed to them not earned.

    True but this situation wasn’t Jay just giving multiple million dollars a time to family member

    It was a relative asking for 4k for a business endeavour. if you are a billionaire relative, 4k is literally couch change. I think for money that might be a real business starter/solid path direction for someone, it’s a fine enough reason to give it to them

    and so is actually more realistic and helpful than flatly handing someone millions at a time with a high risk of them blowing it

    Or using a fraction of those billions to send relatives to college/education and helping them get to those paths/better positions that set them to being financially stable themselves

    Just being like ‘grind on your own bro, hands out will make you lazy’ to your family, as a billionaire, is ridiculous.

  • Oct 2, 2023
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    v12

    jayz might be one of the best rappers ever but he’s a f***ing airhead and just waffles for the sake of it bigger waffler than me

    nah he right

    People have gone overboard with this eat the rich s***.

    Acting like everyone who has alot money is some kind of evil person who shouldn't have money or should just give it all away.

    It's wild.

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    Silas

    nah he right

    People have gone overboard with this eat the rich s***.

    Acting like everyone who has alot money is some kind of evil person who shouldn't have money or should just give it all away.

    It's wild.

    Correct they should be shot instead

  • Oct 2, 2023
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    Silas

    nah he right

    People have gone overboard with this eat the rich s***.

    Acting like everyone who has alot money is some kind of evil person who shouldn't have money or should just give it all away.

    It's wild.

    no one who amassed a billion did it without skeletons in the closet you are not smart that s*** exists for a rzn. it’s due to them amassing all this wealth to do nish with it

  • Oct 2, 2023

    he’s right ffs

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    Everest

    True but this situation wasn’t Jay just giving multiple million dollars a time to family member

    It was a relative asking for 4k for a business endeavour. if you are a billionaire relative, 4k is literally couch change. I think for money that might be a real business starter/solid path direction for someone, it’s a fine enough reason to give it to them

    and so is actually more realistic and helpful than flatly handing someone millions at a time with a high risk of them blowing it

    Or using a fraction of those billions to send relatives to college/education and helping them get to those paths/better positions that set them to being financially stable themselves

    Just being like ‘grind on your own bro, hands out will make you lazy’ to your family, as a billionaire, is ridiculous.

    Someone said it earlier upthread but there's a difference between someone earning 200k and being asked for handouts and a billionaire being asked for handouts. If you're a billionaire, you did more than just grind. You had help along the way, you had luck, you had good timing, you had on-the-job education that helped you make the right decisions.

    I make 85k as a high school teacher. I grind for the little I have. There are hundreds of millions of people around the world just like me that grind, yet the gap in wealth between any of us and a billionaire is still unfathomable.

    So yeah, if you can ever the playing field for your loved ones, you probably should. No one else will.

  • Oct 2, 2023
    Everest

    True but this situation wasn’t Jay just giving multiple million dollars a time to family member

    It was a relative asking for 4k for a business endeavour. if you are a billionaire relative, 4k is literally couch change. I think for money that might be a real business starter/solid path direction for someone, it’s a fine enough reason to give it to them

    and so is actually more realistic and helpful than flatly handing someone millions at a time with a high risk of them blowing it

    Or using a fraction of those billions to send relatives to college/education and helping them get to those paths/better positions that set them to being financially stable themselves

    Just being like ‘grind on your own bro, hands out will make you lazy’ to your family, as a billionaire, is ridiculous.

    By the way he explained it, it seems like his cousin wanted the money to set up a scam than a legit business.

    Had he come with an actual business plan and was turned down then that’s different.

    And also he does have the ability to do all you said in terms of getting his family in better positions but again it’s a slippery slope because now everyone in your family will use you as a shortcut instead of putting the work in themselves.

  • Oct 2, 2023
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    tbh he has a point

    Realistically he got it out the mud

    same with Kevin Hart
    most of the people that come around to ask you for money at a family function like that probably didn't even fw him all that much before he was rich and famous

    if they really had a solid relationship, they could contact him at a better time

    or at least approach with a different level of respect than running up like a fan

    its people that weren't willing to take that Risk in the beginning that feel entitled to a piece of your profits in the end & I think that's wrong

    Also it’s like once you give someone $4,800, they will be asking for $10,000 to level up, than $25,000 to start something else once that fails.

  • Oct 2, 2023

    no. Renaissance out now!

  • Oct 2, 2023
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    tomorrow volverse
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    tbh he has a point

    Realistically he got it out the mud

    same with Kevin Hart
    most of the people that come around to ask you for money at a family function like that probably didn't even fw him all that much before he was rich and famous

    if they really had a solid relationship, they could contact him at a better time

    or at least approach with a different level of respect than running up like a fan

    its people that weren't willing to take that Risk in the beginning that feel entitled to a piece of your profits in the end & I think that's wrong

    That Kevin Hart part not really true

    That nigga was amongst some of the greatest comics of our time. Literally everyone around made it

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    Noir

    Someone said it earlier upthread but there's a difference between someone earning 200k and being asked for handouts and a billionaire being asked for handouts. If you're a billionaire, you did more than just grind. You had help along the way, you had luck, you had good timing, you had on-the-job education that helped you make the right decisions.

    I make 85k as a high school teacher. I grind for the little I have. There are hundreds of millions of people around the world just like me that grind, yet the gap in wealth between any of us and a billionaire is still unfathomable.

    So yeah, if you can ever the playing field for your loved ones, you probably should. No one else will.

    What do you teach?