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  • Jul 30, 2020
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    rip armani x

    Will this continue today?

  • Jul 30, 2020
    Cowbook

    Will this continue today?

    the hearing is done, but the lawmakers can still send more questions to the tech companies for the next few days

    and there might be more hearings like this in the future

  • Jul 30, 2020
    Puma
    !https://youtu.be/L4b-O2TKgQA

    thank u poomer

  • Jul 30, 2020

    Honestly they're so powerful it's impossible to control them

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    All this proved is that the government are full of incompetent idiots who don’t deserve a single tax dollar with how they are wasting their time talking to people with IQs far beyond anything they will ever have when they could instead be focusing on sending aid to people affected by the pandemic

    Liberal politics is just spending all the time in the world talking about how you will help others instead of actually doing it

  • plants 🌻
    Jul 30, 2020
    plants

    absolutely nothing will come from this

    can someone confirm

  • Jul 31, 2020

    Protect my mans Tim

  • Jul 31, 2020

    alright yall here's the full write up. and it's added to op @ChampagneSammy @rune


    JEFF BEZOS

    • Was mostly grilled about Amazon's position as a platform to collect data on sellers that they also compete with

    • Rep. Scanlon pointed to Diapers.com as an example of Amazon using their platform to undercut a competing service, corner them, then acquire their business and increase prices on consumers

    • Rep. Jayapal referenced a Wall Street Journal article that reported on Amazon employees using their data on 3rd party sellers to develop competing products for their Amazon-branded products

    • Bezos said there were policies at Amazon against employees being anti-competitive in this way, but he could NOT guarantee that they were enforced

    • Rep. Neguse put up evidence of Amazon engineers using data to identify growing business on AWS, before launching competing products and targeted them to their customers

    • Bezos denied knowledge and cited Netflix and Hulu as competitors that use AWS

    • Briefly mentioned Amazon acquiring Ring for market dominance and provided emails for evidence, which Bezos confirmed

    "There are multiple reasons that we might buy a company... Sometimes we are trying to buy some technology or IP. Sometimes it is a talent aquisition. But most times it is for market position." - Jeff Bezos

    • Other thing they questioned him on was the amount of stolen and counterfeit products on Amazon. Bezos denied knowing whether sellers needed to provide a name, address and phone number before users could sell products on the platform
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    MARK ZUCKERBERG

    • Came out swinging took shots at all the other CEOs in his opening remarks

    "In many areas, we are behind our competitors... The most popular messaging service in the U.S. is iMessage. The fastest growing app is TikTok. The most popular app for video is YouTube. The fastest growing ads platform is Amazon. The largest ads platform is Google. And for every dollar spent on advertising in the U.S., less than ten cents is spent with us."

    • Was questioned about Facebook's impact on election security and their role in spreading disinformation and hate speech

    • Confirmed that there was a program at Facebook that paid teenagers for access to their personal data

    • They focused on Facebook's acquisition of smaller startups like Instagram and WhatsApp, arguing that they wanted to increase their market position as well as neutralize competition

    “… Facebook saw Instagram as a powerful threat that could siphon business away from Facebook so rather than compete with it, Facebook bought it... This is exactly the same kind of anti-competitive action that the antitrust laws were designed to prevent.” - Jim Sensenbrenner

    • Admitted to copying ideas from competitors

    • Jayapal questioned if Facebook had ever threatened founders to clone their products while also attempting to acquire their company, which Zuckerberg denied

    • Zuckerberg argued that it was well known that Facebook would compete with Snapchat and Instagram, so his messages to founders about copying their features were not "threats"

    • She brought out receipts of Instagram founder Kevin Systrom being shook that Mark would go DESTROY MODE if they didn't sell

    • They even exposed emails of him talking about buying Google

  • Jul 31, 2020

    SUNDAR PICHAI

    • The Chairman David Cicilline accused Google of diverting competitors' traffic from Google Search to their own services and of stealing content. And shouted out Genius

    • Accused Google of monitoring competitors' web traffic data and using it to develop their own services, which Sundar would NOT deny

    • Presented memos of Google engineers discussing websites receiving "too much traffic"

    • The committee highlighted Google's purchase of Advertising Giant DoubleClick, and their promise from 2007 to never combine Google user data with DoubleClick data which they eventually did in 2016

    • Val Demings BULLIED this man, gave a pretty excellent argument for what she described as abuse of Google's market power

    “… Google’s bait and switch with DoubleClick is part of a broader pattern where Google buys up companies for the purposes of surveilling Americans and because of Google’s dominance users have no choice but to surrender.” - Val Demings

    • Basically she argued that by harvesting users' browsing data from DoubleClick and using it with Google's user data from search, Gmail, Maps, etc., Google had essentially ended privacy on the internet

    • Sundar argued that Google had introduced a number of features for users to control their private data

  • Jul 31, 2020

    TIM COOK

    • Received the fewest questions, about half as much as everyone else

    • Like Jeff Bezos, was mostly asked about The App Store's position as a platform while also competing with third party businesses on the same platform

    • Rep. Johnson argued that App Store review rules are not available to developers and were arbitrarily enforced, questioned what would stop Apple from increasing their commission on developers

    • Tim Cook argued there were many different smartphone manufacturers and operating systems competing for developers, compared the situation to a street fight for market share

    • They brought up Screen Time apps that Apple had removed from the App Store in 2018, after releasing their own similar app and promoting it to their users

    • Tim Cook argued that Apple had removed the apps because of privacy and security concerns, not anti-competitive reasons

    • Rep. Lucy McBath provided RECEIPTS of Apple blocking publisher Random House from releasing their own eBook marketplace on the App Store so they would have to use Apple's own iBook store

    • They showed evidence of Apple seemingly enforcing their own rules differently for different developers. Also of them apparently not following their own rules, after Tim Cook testified that they treat all developers the same. Which showed that he was possibly lying

    • Also said that he "could not read" the evidence they gave


    let me know if yall want the timestamps

  • sace 👍
    Jul 31, 2020
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    thanks for all that quick summaries! @op

  • Jul 31, 2020
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    👇 REACTIONS 👇


    Some congresspeople actually did their job and asked tough questions about Big Tech's monopolistic practices

    mashable.com/article/biggest-moments-from-big-tech-anti-trust-hearing

    As a hearing on antitrust law, it was a historic moment of reckoning with the most powerful companies and people the modern world has ever known


    Tech competitors are ‘blown away’ by Congress’ CEO grilling and hopeful for antitrust reform

    cnbc.com/2020/07/31/big-tech-competitors-were-blown-away-by-house-antitrust-ceo-hearing.html

    Three competitors who have spoken out said the hearing largely succeeded in showing something is wrong in monopolistic digital markets


    Big Tech’s Power Comes Under Fire at Congressional Antitrust Hearing

    wsj.com/articles/tech-ceos-defend-operations-ahead-of-congressional-hearing-11596027626

    The chief executives of Amazon, Facebook, Apple and Alphabet faced relentless criticism at a congressional hearing Wednesday, with Democrats and Republicans alike challenging their business practices over more than five contentious hours


    Congress has the goods on Apple, Amazon, Facebook and Google

    cnbc.com/2020/07/30/apple-amazon-facebook-google-internal-emails-released-by-congress.html

    The House antitrust subcommittee released a trove of documents after the hearing that provide a clearer picture of the four tech giants’ approach to competition as they grew into major forces of the global economy over the last decade


    Grilled by Lawmakers, Big Tech Turns Up the Gaslight

    nytimes.com/2020/07/30/technology/big-tech-ceos.html

    It is less clear that tech executives’ strategy of evasive answers will continue to work now that lawmakers have begun doing their homework


    The 5 biggest little lies tech CEOs told Congress — and us

    washingtonpost.com/technology/2020/07/29/big-tech-ceo-hearing-lies

    No, Google, we’re not really in control of our data. And yes, Facebook, you profit from harmful information


    What Tim Cook Left Out Of His Version Of App Store History

    forbes.com/sites/robpegoraro/2020/07/29/what-tim-cook-left-out-of-his-version-of-app-store-history

    Apple saying it’s no worse than many rivals does not make for the most compelling sales pitch to either Congress or developers


    Break up Big Tech? With congressional probe, the idea may be gaining steam

    nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/break-big-tech-congressional-probe-idea-may-be-gaining-steam-n1235320

    Beyond the theatrics, the high-profile hearing could end up having real consequences for the world's biggest technology companies


    Big Tech's antitrust hearing is over. Now the real action starts

    cnet.com/news/big-techs-antitrust-hearing-is-over-now-the-real-action-starts

    Facebook, Amazon, Apple and Google had a historic showdown with Congress. What comes next?

  • Jul 31, 2020
    sace

    thanks for all that quick summaries! @op

  • Jul 31, 2020

    Need Congress to f*** around and be useful for once

  • Jul 31, 2020

    Op putting in work thank you

  • Jul 31, 2020
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    good info

  • Aug 2, 2020
    dadye

    good info

    !https://youtu.be/jyxS2bvQGxc

    just got around to watching

    he was right about a lot of things

  • Oct 1, 2020
    dadye

    UPDATE https://www.cnbc.com/2020/10/01/facebook-google-and-twitter-ceos-sub.html

    i need to look at this

  • Oct 1, 2020

    Why does bezos look sexy in thumbnail in OP

  • Oct 1, 2020

    hey my thread got bumped

    what happen