actually i think it was related to simulacra and simulation by baudrillard

like a simulation of something is based off of a previous model, or is a representation of an actual existent thing

a simulacrum is a cheap copy/representation of something, but it doesn’t adhere strictly to the model it’s based off of, so it becomes it’s own thing

i think the article was saying something like social media accounts are simulacrums that become their own entity essentially and they end up consuming both the person behind the account and the audience that views it, in a fake representation of someone that appears to be real, so the person loses aspects of their actual self within their persona and it’s kind of a feedback loop with their audience, because the person behind the account has to keep up their persona or risk alienating their fanbase

idek some s*** like that

whatever

yeah simply put with none of the word salad

Interesting. I can see that being a thing, but I guess in my experience, even if it’s not the “real them”, usually the way someone expresses themself on social media can give you at least some surface level insight on what’s important to them, or how they see themselves

What about interviews though? It’s not like we’ve just seen Tyler’s tumblr or something. He has put himself out there a lot. I feel like through interviews I’ve gotten more insight on the human side of different artists. Not saying you can actually judge someone, but this “parasocial” thing is being over used if you ask me. I find it silly to say you can’t make ANY assumptions about a person without knowing them personally. That’s not to say the assumptions will be correct

S*** Tyler even does full q&a’s with fans

LIRL when i saw that

“What are you seeking?” Obviously not you nigga

11 pages

I don’t pretend to know Hitler either, you can objectively say what he did was wrong, but I’m not gonna pretend like I knew the guy personally

I don’t think it’s parasocial to say a celeb seems like an a******

But I feel like it is a waste of energy to really a***yze a person negatively when you don’t know them unless they did something really bad, you could say the same about the stan too but I feel like positive energy is always gonna get a better response than negative energy

Most popular rappers are degenerates & weirdos nowadays people just pick and choose who to act fickle towards.

Since Tyler is a clown and didn’t grow up as the prototypical cool guy people see themselves in him and he gets a pass and you guys overlook the weirdness and how he fetishizes young women and white dudes. If this was anyone else it would be a big problem online. Once his fans grow old and realize how weird they’ll look still wearing their sexuality as a fashion statement well into their 30s, they’ll realize how weird this dude really is.

Seems like the themes on his most recent albums are big on him insinuating he’s gay but also trying to insinuate he isn’t. Well if he is straight nigga blatantly admitted he likes under age girls and it didn’t even get a headline lmao let it sit a few years, one slip up from him and watch everyone come out of the woodworks s***ting on him once it’s the accepted thing to do.

And I didn’t say I know him as a person either. But Jesus Christ, it won’t kill you to connect a couple dots.

When did speculation and critical thought become so demonized? Why are we only allowed to say things that we can know for an objective fact, and if we should attempt to ever read between any lines or connect any dots, or draw any conclusions using critical thinking, it’s a reach and we can’t possibly know that? It seems anti intellectual to me.

Again, to clarify, never once did I say that you can fully know someone without knowing them. So don’t misrepresent me by portraying my argument as the opposite extreme.

You are on the extreme end, that says you cannot know anything about anyone unless you know them personally

I am in the nuanced middle, with the stance that you can’t truly know someone’s character through the internet or otherwise, but you can still make observations about what you see. To say we can’t, is crazy

You could also argue we can never truly know another person even if you spend years with them. We don’t know what’s in their mind. The way they present outwardly to us could be no more real than a social media post

So we can say Hitler was objectively wrong but we can’t then take that next logical step and say “well maybe he wasn’t a great guy”, that’s just too big a leap for you to take?

psychoanalyzing and pulling up 15 yr old tweets itt

Agreed

baudrillard-scijournal.com/baudrillard-and-mcluhan-in-the-social-media-age

yeah this is what i was talking about

@bh0stman @2words

if you’re interested in the read idk

Jerrod is making you watch his show?

The thread made me watch this clip

He was like 22-23. Yall talk like he was 12 or something

KTT washed

He’s also the original perpetrator of the yachty genre thing (do we have a word for it?) so it feels like the sentiment from the tweets is still kind of there in a way. If you know what I mean

I’ve become death, destroyer of threads

You shouldn’t even be entertaining this bruh. Let’s be real, Tyler fans itt are just upset he’s being pegged :dash: for the exact type of guy he used to portray himself as. They know deep down it’s true and they have no real rebuttal for it so they try and squash all discussion for it by saying “you don’t know him”

If someone said I respect how much Tyler loves music nobody in here would be like “you don’t know him”

Is tyler even gay or bi?

Lmaoooooiooiooooooooo

Odd Future was wildin back then
Don’t listen to Swag me out
You might have a seizure
Damn now I wanna listen to it driving home

Not gonna read all that

But I’ll stick to not pretending I know people I don’t, it works well for me