Dec 19, 2021·1 reply
barko milicicIf we’re being real Manchin gives dems their best shot in 2024 but he’ll never have the party support after this
Elaborate
Dec 19, 2021·1 replybarko milicicThey’re gonna get eviscerated in 2022 because they don’t understand how to incorporate leftist policies with moderate framing. Everything they do has to be framed as some radical shift for the social and economic landscape of the US. Most people are not looking for that right now.
So they played their conventional base and their millennial base
To get absolutely nothing substantial done with the exception of another COVID package 😂
Trump and DeSantis
Or DeSantis
Is coming
The midterms are done… the republicans are going to orchestrate a tsunami wave next fall
I’m just confused at what Biden and Harris’ plan was/is
This administration is shaping up to be one big waste of time (literally)
- Dec 19, 2021·1 replyNakedBalenciaga
Elaborate
Refer back to my last post for some context. Every potential dem candidate is incapable of framing their platform in a way that could resonate with middle America—even if their proposed policies could help them. Manchin is the only prominent member of the party who could do that.
Dec 19, 2021·1 replymost of the BBB was ass if we're being honest, and dems trying to pack every single policy known to man into a single bill was bound to fail. there is absolutely no reason why they cannot simply introduce individual bills for child tax credit, universal pre-K, universal healthcare, transportation/infrastructure, etc. - every time they do this and try to pack a billion policies into a several hundred page bill they know what's coming. Manchin will walk out of this looking like a hero to a large chunk if not the majority of the country because of the framing of the bill and some of its worst passages being paired alongside otherrwise objectively good policy. Want to flip this and make Manchin look bad, and get actual policy through? Introduce an actual f***ing individual policy bill. There is no reason AT ALL that the same bill which references pre-K should also reference climate change should also reference auditing bank accounts and re-regulating financial assets for the middle class. It's designed to fail.
Dec 19, 2021·1 replyGovernments don't have to be this way. It's not the concept of government that is the issue.
Dec 19, 2021·1 replyMangoGovernments don't have to be this way. It's not the concept of government that is the issue.
its the class composition of the government its like we need a dictatorship of the working man or something
- Dec 19, 2021NakedBalenciaga
Dec 19, 2021NakedBalenciaga- Dec 19, 2021
The fact we pay them to f*** us over is the most sadistic part
Bodies need to start dropping
- Dec 19, 2021·1 replykrishna bound
most of the BBB was ass if we're being honest, and dems trying to pack every single policy known to man into a single bill was bound to fail. there is absolutely no reason why they cannot simply introduce individual bills for child tax credit, universal pre-K, universal healthcare, transportation/infrastructure, etc. - every time they do this and try to pack a billion policies into a several hundred page bill they know what's coming. Manchin will walk out of this looking like a hero to a large chunk if not the majority of the country because of the framing of the bill and some of its worst passages being paired alongside otherrwise objectively good policy. Want to flip this and make Manchin look bad, and get actual policy through? Introduce an actual f***ing individual policy bill. There is no reason AT ALL that the same bill which references pre-K should also reference climate change should also reference auditing bank accounts and re-regulating financial assets for the middle class. It's designed to fail.
In theory id agree but do you think hed actually vote for individual bills either?
No so thats why they cram everything in bc congress moves at a snails pace and everything gets stalled anyway
But again Biden is doing s*** with executive order. He couldve mandated universal healthcare because of the pandemic and didnt even do that
Dec 19, 2021this political system is completely impotent, f***ed by hyper polarization, gridlock, and the process by which it passes law
we gotta give up on the electoral system
- Dec 19, 2021·2 repliesKAYTRANADA
In theory id agree but do you think hed actually vote for individual bills either?
No so thats why they cram everything in bc congress moves at a snails pace and everything gets stalled anyway
But again Biden is doing s*** with executive order. He couldve mandated universal healthcare because of the pandemic and didnt even do that
my point is that its far easier for them to electorally get away with voting against package deals because the bad stuff in the deals always makes the news and in the eyes of the "moderate" swing voter outweighs the rest. like if you have something about bank auditing in a bill, and you come from a mostly red state, you're going to be lauded for rejecting the bill (or at least you can posture to that tune). Similar with what he's doing about the budget stuff - it's like really to postulate over "2 trillion" or whatever, because big numbers = scary. People like him and Sinema can't make excuses if the bill is legitimately nothing except "child tax credit? yes/no" for example - there is no way to frame it negatively like they can an arbitrary package deal. Also agree, Biden is just a lame-duck president. He could be doing far more (+ Harris lol) but they're both incompetent and share the blame arguably more than Manchin.
Dec 19, 2021·1 replyIs Joe Biden the President or Joe Manchin the President?
Dec 19, 2021·1 replyWomanpuncher69its the class composition of the government its like we need a dictatorship of the working man or something
that part
Dec 20, 2021krishna boundmy point is that its far easier for them to electorally get away with voting against package deals because the bad stuff in the deals always makes the news and in the eyes of the "moderate" swing voter outweighs the rest. like if you have something about bank auditing in a bill, and you come from a mostly red state, you're going to be lauded for rejecting the bill (or at least you can posture to that tune). Similar with what he's doing about the budget stuff - it's like really to postulate over "2 trillion" or whatever, because big numbers = scary. People like him and Sinema can't make excuses if the bill is legitimately nothing except "child tax credit? yes/no" for example - there is no way to frame it negatively like they can an arbitrary package deal. Also agree, Biden is just a lame-duck president. He could be doing far more (+ Harris lol) but they're both incompetent and share the blame arguably more than Manchin.
- Dec 20, 2021·1 replykrishna bound
my point is that its far easier for them to electorally get away with voting against package deals because the bad stuff in the deals always makes the news and in the eyes of the "moderate" swing voter outweighs the rest. like if you have something about bank auditing in a bill, and you come from a mostly red state, you're going to be lauded for rejecting the bill (or at least you can posture to that tune). Similar with what he's doing about the budget stuff - it's like really to postulate over "2 trillion" or whatever, because big numbers = scary. People like him and Sinema can't make excuses if the bill is legitimately nothing except "child tax credit? yes/no" for example - there is no way to frame it negatively like they can an arbitrary package deal. Also agree, Biden is just a lame-duck president. He could be doing far more (+ Harris lol) but they're both incompetent and share the blame arguably more than Manchin.
Good point good point
Didnt think of that messaging wise
WINTER 🌨️Dec 20, 2021·1 replyno way ted cruz doesnt become president in 2024
- Dec 20, 2021WINTER
no way ted cruz doesnt become president in 2024
Nah man Ron desantis is gonna win with his Stop woke act 😂
Hes gonna win off of stopping schools from teaching real history
- Dec 20, 2021·1 replyKAYTRANADA
Good point good point
Didnt think of that messaging wise
It's really mindboggling just how bad democrats are on messaging and strategy over what should be incredibly popular policy otherwise
- Dec 20, 2021krishna bound
It's really mindboggling just how bad democrats are on messaging and strategy over what should be incredibly popular policy otherwise
idk they base their whole platform is were not the republicans, give us money to have "decorum" back in washington
even if they lose theyll still get fundraising so thats all that matters
Dec 20, 2021insertcoolnameherebecause America's military budget being so high isn't because of international but because of domestic.
"we sittin here talkin bout gats nigga they made them gats they got some s*** that'll blow out our backs from where they stay at"
- 3000
America would definitely be the first country who's military force would 100% mow down a row of armed civilians if it came down to it. We already seen them bomb their own state (Philly)
"US military not bc of international"
