are you retarded
That wasn't very nice of you first of all .
Now then , why does the burden of engaging in nuanced and / or otherwise unorthodox conversations about the historical events and related subject matter I based this thread around always fall solely on the people attempting to approach these issues from a different perspective than the status quo ?
People are given carte blanche to move the goalposts however they please as long as they continue to allow cold war era propaganda to influence their opinions , but when you try do the opposite and question the supremacy of capitalist economics and subsequent government policy over all other systems and ideologies , you are forced to defend every single instance of corruption and poverty in non capitalist nations as if those same failures do not exist anywhere else
That wasn't very nice of you first of all .
Now then , why does the burden of engaging in nuanced and / or otherwise unorthodox conversations about the historical events and related subject matter I based this thread around always fall solely on the people attempting to approach these issues from a different perspective than the status quo ?
People are given carte blanche to move the goalposts however they please as long as they continue to allow cold war era propaganda to influence their opinions , but when you try do the opposite and question the supremacy of capitalist economics and subsequent government policy over all other systems and ideologies , you are forced to defend every single instance of corruption and poverty in non capitalist nations as if those same failures do not exist anywhere else
cause Hitler did the exact same thing (anti communist crusade + an actual genoicide communists as well) plus unleashing an untold amount of terror across the world.
Now, Melissa McCarthy as a name doesn't make you turn your head, but Melissa Hitler?
Thank God he never left his seed around
Comparison pushing it too far but yeah the red scare and the cold war did a lot of damage tho
Yeah bro. Many people burning alive, poison suffocation, torture, work slavery, hunger starvation and s***slaves on top of multiple horrible experiments and disfigurement including forcibly ripping babies out the womb by a government didn't do the most damage. That also not only did it to just "just Jews" or "just Germany", but including blacks n Asians and the disabled n gays on top of manipulating all of Japan into giving even more power to their final tyrannical govt empire that f***ed over China and cascaded into Korea.
Which lead to the literal NUCLEAR ATOM BOMB being created that not only brought in the Cold War with Russia and Cuba that is still controlling the world today, it also gave America its true seat as iron "authority" over the nations on top of instilling more patriotic attitudes and surrender to govts due to those WW2 atrocities n timeline web - is totally weaker just because your own personal ideals got diminished by your government.
Yeah, sure.
Straight f***ing clownery. F*** you forreal.
Just because the tactics Joe McCarthy and who / what he represented used to carry out their own total war were not on the same level of fear and torture Nazi Germany used to pursue their genocide does not mean the end results were not comparable .
As I said in the OP , Judaism is alive and well , and the Jewish people as well as other minority groups who suffered as a result of WW2 and the years leading up to it , despite the effects of the Holocaust continuing to persist to this day , have made significant progress worldwide in having their injustices represented within the political discourse taking place today , with significant legislation to show for it , while people who identify with communism can not say the same
What is with this need to be like “Yeah, Hitler was pretty bad, but…” s***?
Its legit people who dont think the holocaust happened out here
I don’t like the idea of the nazis being the end-all be-all example of modern inhumanity who todays problems can be scapegoated on
But I dont like playing oppression Olympics even more
Btw idk who josph mcarthy is
"McCarthy's FBI file also contains numerous allegations, including a 1952 letter from an Army lieutenant who said, "When I was in Washington some time ago, McCarthy picked me up at the bar in the Wardman Hotel and took me home, and while I was half-drunk he committed sodomy on me.""
I am inclined to believe this is a topic worth revisiting in the aftermath of Luigi's act of valor - havent seen Monsieur The @water_giver weigh in with his 2 cents on any of it , which is something I'd pay to observe ,
I'm not sure class solidarity ever existed in America tbh. White people said f*** any type of solidarity after the 60s when they couldn't trust their neighbors to also discriminate against nonwhites
def not
Comparing a worldwide genocide project during wartime to an American inability to wage revolution in peacetime makes you look at best too focused on America. We probably can discuss the destructive effects of McCarthyism (it gets its origins from far earlier though see First Red Scare) without comparing it to every other bad thing that happened
Could’ve said whoever that is did a lot of damage ain’t need to bring Hitler in wtf
Crazy how Troy Ave having a point means that @op thread aged like milk
Also lol @ people who think they know Snowboys politics enough to bring her up in connection with this deranged rambling
Crazy how Troy Ave having a point means that @op thread aged like milk
Your choice to align yourself with the wrong side of history by placing yourself on Troy Ave Stan's portion of the sand , with the line Luigi drew by blicking that CEO and everyone who recognizes why that was a brave and essentially necessary thing to do on the other end of the beach , tells me everything I need to know about your political values .
As for how that relates to the Holocaust , I feel vindicated given that while somewhat insensitive , the actual meat of the sandwich would have received the attention it deserves if the timing was different
Your choice to align yourself with the wrong side of history by placing yourself on Troy Ave Stan's portion of the sand , with the line Luigi drew by blicking that CEO and everyone who recognizes why that was a brave and essentially necessary thing to do on the other end of the beach , tells me everything I need to know about your political values .
As for how that relates to the Holocaust , I feel vindicated given that while somewhat insensitive , the actual meat of the sandwich would have received the attention it deserves if the timing was different
No I agree with Luigi's actions. I'm just agreeing with Troy's point that Hitler wasn't needed to paint the gravity of the situation of what the red scare did to the world.
mccarthyism doesn't really have anything to do with cointelpro except in an abstract sense and state repression isnt really the reason for the black panther party's downfall. your post is unfocused and overly humanistic.
"americans" aren't brainwashed into thinking communism is evil, this is some hegelian nonsense.