Michael Jackson is the greatest artist of all time.
How you gonna say Kanye isnt the GOAT for the reasons you listed but then say MJ is?
MJs best albums (Bad, Thriller, Off the Wall) are classics in huge part because of Quincy Jones. And he also had many producers later on.
MJ didnt play any instruments either.
MJ didnt know how to mix or engineer. He didnt direct his music videos. Because according to you an "artist" has to do everything
How you gonna say Kanye isnt the GOAT for the reasons you listed but then say MJ is?
MJs best albums (Bad, Thriller, Off the Wall) are classics in huge part because of Quincy Jones. And he also had many producers later on.
MJ didnt play any instruments either.
MJ didnt know how to mix or engineer. He didnt direct his music videos. Because according to you an "artist" has to do everything
The artist doesn’t have to do everything
But as a singer you’re in a different box
He also wrote a lot of his own music
And he’s one of the best vocalists if not the greatest of all time which is like playing an instrument.
Kanye was great at taking other people’s talent and making it work for him.
A rapper who uses other rappers for lyrics isn’t a real rapper to me
A producer who leans heavily on sampling isn’t creating the same way an artist who’s creating a melody form scratch and playing them with instruments they mastered
A singer who uses auto tune to make their harmonies tolerable isn’t a real singer.
He’s great at putting pieces together but not as talented in the sense that MJ or Prince or Marvin Gaye Or Stevie Wonder are
It’s just not debatable...
He’s not greater than Stevie and the likes... kill yourselves for even trying to think the s***s ok to think.
Take that opinion off the dweeb ass internet and see how niggas look at you
Nah the producers who worked on Yeezus told Bjork to stfu when she tried to accuse him of taking advantage of them lmao
link?
sounds about right considering they have the same fanbase
Arent you a cole stan?

Fuk im lirl
Kanye uses samples to make vast majority of his music if that’s the production you’re so enamored with, he needs to be a better producer without leaning so heavily on others works for be considered the GREATEST of ALL TIME as an artist
A GOAT artist is original, play music and responsible for their own art unless they’re singers and even then most of their s*** needs to be written by them.
End of discussion
c***take. Hip hop IS samples
The artist doesn’t have to do everything
But as a singer you’re in a different box
He also wrote a lot of his own music
And he’s one of the best vocalists if not the greatest of all time which is like playing an instrument.
Kanye was great at taking other people’s talent and making it work for him.
A rapper who uses other rappers for lyrics isn’t a real rapper to me
A producer who leans heavily on sampling isn’t creating the same way an artist who’s creating a melody form scratch and playing them with instruments they mastered
A singer who uses auto tune to make their harmonies tolerable isn’t a real singer.
He’s great at putting pieces together but not as talented in the sense that MJ or Prince or Marvin Gaye Or Stevie Wonder are
It’s just not debatable...
He’s not greater than Stevie and the likes... kill yourselves for even trying to think the s***s ok to think.
Take that opinion off the dweeb ass internet and see how niggas look at you
Lol 😂 oh man you just have a bias against ye. Idc if you said you bought his first album. You totally disregard credits, videos of other artist working with him. I guess consequence , rhyme fest wrote hey mama, through the wire, All falls down,power, homecoming, runaway, saint Pablo and nmpila
Cobain wrote all his own music and actually played instruments
So does Russ.
Lmfao
![]()
Arent you a cole stan?

Fuk im lirl
that one hit home didn't it c**
![]()
Avy to posts matches well.
Kanye is the most overrated artist of all time and I say this as a fan.
You mean overhated.
The artist doesn’t have to do everything
But as a singer you’re in a different box
He also wrote a lot of his own music
And he’s one of the best vocalists if not the greatest of all time which is like playing an instrument.
Kanye was great at taking other people’s talent and making it work for him.
A rapper who uses other rappers for lyrics isn’t a real rapper to me
A producer who leans heavily on sampling isn’t creating the same way an artist who’s creating a melody form scratch and playing them with instruments they mastered
A singer who uses auto tune to make their harmonies tolerable isn’t a real singer.
He’s great at putting pieces together but not as talented in the sense that MJ or Prince or Marvin Gaye Or Stevie Wonder are
It’s just not debatable...
He’s not greater than Stevie and the likes... kill yourselves for even trying to think the s***s ok to think.
Take that opinion off the dweeb ass internet and see how niggas look at you
808s proves how great Kanye is at coming up with melodies. He is great at writing and coming up with hooks also
Kanye writes most of his raps and has proven multiple times that at times he can rap just as good as the best
This clip i attached is a great example of easily he does come up with melodies and flows

Lol 😂 oh man you just have a bias against ye. Idc if you said you bought his first album. You totally disregard credits, videos of other artist working with him. I guess consequence , rhyme fest wrote hey mama, through the wire, All falls down,power, homecoming, runaway, saint Pablo and nmpila
No way of knowing who wrote what..
And yeah I have a bias against claiming someone is the best at something while leap frogging artists with more talent in their pinky than him
808s proves how great Kanye is at coming up with melodies. He is great at writing and coming up with hooks also
Kanye writes most of his raps and has proven multiple times that at times he can rap just as good as the best
This clip i attached is a great example of easily he does come up with melodies and flows
!https://youtu.be/xYr8Sn1_8lwComing up with melodies is nowhere near the same as playing them on instruments
Also 808’s is trash in comparison to the works of MJ Prince Stevie, Marvin and Sade
No way of knowing who wrote what..
And yeah I have a bias against claiming someone is the best at something while leap frogging artists with more talent in their pinky than him





I love Prince,MJ and Bowie and they are better musicians then Ye but again how can you mad at someone who thinks Ye is a GOAT artist.
I love Prince,MJ and Bowie and they are better musicians then Ye but again how can you mad at someone who thinks Ye is a GOAT artist.
Cuz it’s obviously untrue