There's no mention of originality in the definition of artist
But it counts for a lot my brotha
Playing an instrument is a factor in determining an “artist”
Since y’all are using the term “artist” to separate him from other rappers.
He’s not in the discussion with artist who can actually play instruments and sang /created music out of their own skills and talents at the most elite level
Nothin to do with race but if you’re insecure with your race, you gotta work on that within yourself big dog
you don't have to play an instrument to be a great artist that's the most ignorant distinction i've heard today lmao
“Artist”
Entails more than just rapping and beat making
Song writing, instrumentation, originality, and vocal ability are all things that go into this pot
Kanye is not doing any of these things on an elite level.
He’s usin others talent to make elite music.. I can’t qualify that as GOAT artist of all time.
Real GOAT is all original at the very least
Fam bob dylan is great artist and can’t sing for s***
Kanye’s songwriting is on an elite level, most of dark fantasy, dropout, late registration is beautifully written and original. So he meets your criteria and probably more. S*** even Michael Jackson arguably the greatest pop vocalist of all time said he likes Kanye’s auto tune.
How could you say Kanye’s not original when his first album is a rap album about dropping out of college. Who does that?
Btw saying you can't be a goat artist because of samples is highkey disrespecting hip hop as a genre
Real s***
These new kids needa learn about hip-hops roots
Sampling is to hip hop basically like what a guitar is to rock n roll
Never thought i'd say it or see that day but Hov is without a doubt the unanimous king of Hip-Hop. Always thought Nas was better on a technical level but it's like comparing apples and oranges. Hov's discography & rhymes speak for themselves. HE IS THE G.O.A.T. If Pac or Biggie were MJ, Hov is Bron

Y'all really spending energy arguin with this dude rn
Never thought i'd say it or see that day but Hov is without a doubt the unanimous king of Hip-Hop. Always thought Nas was better on a technical level but it's like comparing apples and oranges. Hov's discography & rhymes speak for themselves. HE IS THE G.O.A.T. If Pac or Biggie were MJ, Hov is Bron
Hov can’t play instruments.
Yo Kanye knows how to draw, paint, and create music. He’s an artist in every sense of the word. This Doug avi nigga is buggin
Playing an instrument is a factor in determining an “artist”
Since y’all are using the term “artist” to separate him from other rappers.
He’s not in the discussion with artist who can actually play instruments and sang /created music out of their own skills and talents at the most elite level
Nothin to do with race but if you’re insecure with your race, you gotta work on that within yourself big dog
tf are you talking about nigga? insecure in my race?
I swear ppl like you need to not talk about black culture since you clearly not in it. White publications since the beginning of time have been calling Rap not a real genre since we dont "play" an "instrument".
You use Fruity Loops or Abelton and come up with something even resembling even MetroBoomin then imagine making something similar to Kanye.
What makes the MPC/beat machines in general not an instrument?
Yo Kanye knows how to draw, paint, and create music. He’s an artist in every sense of the word. This Doug avi nigga is buggin
Why can’t we agree that genius is multifaceted—similar to mathematical genius or kinaesthetic genius?

The ability to breathe new life and shift the perspective in a record is artistic.
But it counts for a lot my brotha
No the f*** it doesnt, at least not the way you think. Being original doesnt boil down to playing instruments and creating melodies from scratch, samples i think are a great example of originality, cause i can guarantee you not many could make a beat like jesus walks, stronger and takeover interpolating the samples he used like that
As if most "artists" compose, produce, mix, spit etc. 🙄
His Production is mainly sampled
Most artists play their own instruments which is producing out of their own creativity and requires a level of skill that sampling simply does not
Also any artist who’s singing is using an instrument as well... no auto tune.
His singing is auto tune.. his raps are written by someone else
His production is sampled.
He’s not the GOAT artist
His Production is mainly sampled
Most artists play their own instruments which is producing out of their own creativity and requires a level of skill that sampling simply does not
Also any artist who’s singing is using an instrument as well... no auto tune.
His singing is auto tune.. his raps are written by someone else
His production is sampled.
He’s not the GOAT artist
Who is then?
His Production is mainly sampled
Most artists play their own instruments which is producing out of their own creativity and requires a level of skill that sampling simply does not
Also any artist who’s singing is using an instrument as well... no auto tune.
His singing is auto tune.. his raps are written by someone else
His production is sampled.
He’s not the GOAT artist
U keep regurgitating the same arguments after they’ve already been shut down
U keep regurgitating the same arguments after they’ve already been shut down
They’ve never been shut and they’re the only points that matter
Why can’t we agree that genius is multifaceted—similar to mathematical genius or kinaesthetic genius?
!https://youtu.be/fpcmUECP3FwThe ability to breathe new life and shift the perspective in a record is artistic.
Dilla is probably even a better example than kanye to why using samples takes as much skill, talent, ear and originality as playing any instrument
His Production is mainly sampled
Most artists play their own instruments which is producing out of their own creativity and requires a level of skill that sampling simply does not
Also any artist who’s singing is using an instrument as well... no auto tune.
His singing is auto tune.. his raps are written by someone else
His production is sampled.
He’s not the GOAT artist
do you think you just put a sample into Garageband then rap on it? Do you seriously think sampling requires no skill?
His Production is mainly sampled
Most artists play their own instruments which is producing out of their own creativity and requires a level of skill that sampling simply does not
Also any artist who’s singing is using an instrument as well... no auto tune.
His singing is auto tune.. his raps are written by someone else
His production is sampled.
He’s not the GOAT artist
I would say that makes him a top tier producer in the literal sense
Without Kanye's vision none of his music would've been made