theres a lotta niggas from nyc that have no idea how hip hop truly came to be and what it is

im not finna sit on a internet forum and have niggas tell me travis jack and jill scott and kanye nerd ass jock west are trap artists

they make trap inspired rap music

one of the most important pillars of rap is knowledge

something yall lack 100 emoji

"Usually production"

So u agree with me lol

song is unsalvageable lmfao

I think you're getting things mixed up brodie.

No one said YE IS A TRAP ARTIST.

BUT

ye is making trap music, ye HAS been making trap music for quite some time.

trap music is one of the subgenres of hip hop that is 100% the subject matter its just that niggas like zaytoven made a sound for it that was so iconic.

og trap music sounds nothing like what it is today, but the subject matter is the same

nigga been making crap music all them trap attempts was butt cheeks

he got away with it on fsmh though no question

no one ever said it was good

the issue was people itt denying that ye has been doing that lol.

I don’t listen to those niggas maybe someone else could answer this lol, I’m not really interested at all, in policing this subject honestly I just feel very strongly that it’s easy to make the distinction between “trap” & trap inspired & troupes originating from trap lol, ultimately people can call anything what they want

BOOOOOOOO

I guess Travis Scott is Trap now

who said jill scott was a trap artist ?

Now that being said, why aint none of these niggas put jill scott on a trap song hook yet?

No it isn't 100% subject or the niggas that were rapping the same exact s*** but on boom bap production would also be called trap artists no ?

Bro niggas been eurostepping that question for the last few pages lol.

nah, Travis scott's production has been a lot more varied than that from the jump.

you can say he HAS trap elements but he aint solely making trap music like ye's been on these last few attempts.

I guess all those d*** dealing rappers are from the east coast are also trap artist then

griselda is trap music

tell that to the niggas here and irl that was calling WWCD boom bap

problem is a lot of ppl don’t really care to distinguish between

trap music (sub genre of hiphop that thematically references trapping)

the production style of a bunch of high hats kick snare and certain drum patterns that reflect the most mainstream hip hop production (doesn’t have to talk about selling)

trap (a kind of EDM sub genre)

nobody seriously acknowledged that last s*** as trap, or (as famously said by a dj on twitter) better known as 'crackertrap'

yeah that’s kind of just tacked on because to some people, thats trap music

idk if there’s enough similarities in drum patterns to link them though

its boom bap trap i guess haha

What that gotta do with anything lmao, it's prod by Traxster and Havoc and has been in the works for while considering they got Jon Rafman to make a video for it. And as I said before Ye keeps changing drums every other version, removes them, or whatever. To think drums are the one that determine genre of a song completely is dumb af. Also as someone here already said, it's like the 1/4 song of overall 20 that can be classified trap on the album, but does it simply not become trap cause he used a Portishead sample, got an artsy video for it and changed up the drums.

This song simply doesn't become the same genre as Future, 2 Chainz, Young Thug, etc. just cause it uses similar drums as them.

This genre talk is tired and dumb af. Ye songs aren't rigid like that half the time and circling back to the original point, albums like JIK, Ye and Donda aren't trap, if you feel they are, feel free to get your ears checked.

Read what i said. Travis “jack and Jill” Scott

Jack and Jill is a program rich black kids get put in it’s like a frat. Travis was in this program

Oh totally misread that

Yea niggas do be sweeping that s*** under the rug lol

I ain't never heard of this before