Semi-related but Sukuna said the vow was not to hurt or kill anyone. And then he cut off Itadori's finger and said "that vow didn't include Itadori himself" but that never made sense to me. Because "hurt no one" by definition includes EVERYONE. Idk, that part was kind of iffy imo.
This was explained as Yuji believing himself to be a cog and not a person. He desperately wants to die and started to see himself as just a cog in the system so he didn’t consider himself apart of the vow. It is his selfless nature and Sukuna realized it when Yuji let himself die to save Megumi in the beginning
This was explained as Yuji believing himself to be a cog and not a person. He desperately wants to die and started to see himself as just a cog in the system so he didn’t consider himself apart of the vow. It is his selfless nature and Sukuna realized it when Yuji let himself die to save Megumi in the beginning
Where is this explained? I know that at a certain point Yuji sees himself as a cog but that doesn't mean he stops being a breathing, living human. It seems kinda far-fetched to me. Also, out of curiosity, I went back to the chapter where Sukuna makes the switch and he clearly hurts Angel, incapacitating her. So yeah Idk.
Where is this explained? I know that at a certain point Yuji sees himself as a cog but that doesn't mean he stops being a breathing, living human. It seems kinda far-fetched to me. Also, out of curiosity, I went back to the chapter where Sukuna makes the switch and he clearly hurts Angel, incapacitating her. So yeah Idk.
Binding vows are based on how both parties interpret the vow, which was why it benefited Sukuna. The whole reason Sukuna said it was a gamble was because he didn’t know if Yuji included himself, but he had an inkling he didn’t because Yuji had been calling himself a cog and has been suicidal. Suicidal people who think that way wouldn’t think of themselves as anyone worth living. This is all inferred all the way up until that point which is why it is not an asspull because you can see how Sukuna and Yuji thought of making the vow, which only made it depressing to see how low Yuji thought of himself. And Angel could have simply just had something to do with vital points, Sukuna is a thousand years old so it’s not unthinkable for him to know ways to put people to sleep without harm if they are off guard

Crazy how hopeful this chapter is. Yuta came in and turned the tide. 2 chapters ago this guy Sukuna was toying with everybody and now he has constantly use 2 hands to do Hollow Wicker Basket, can get oneshot by angels technique while having to tank Yuta, Rika and Yuji at the same time, while we know that yuji can do extra damage + Maki still hasnt showed herself. No im thinking is sukuna really gonna lose?!
Binding vows are based on how both parties interpret the vow, which was why it benefited Sukuna. The whole reason Sukuna said it was a gamble was because he didn’t know if Yuji included himself, but he had an inkling he didn’t because Yuji had been calling himself a cog and has been suicidal. Suicidal people who think that way wouldn’t think of themselves as anyone worth living. This is all inferred all the way up until that point which is why it is not an asspull because you can see how Sukuna and Yuji thought of making the vow, which only made it depressing to see how low Yuji thought of himself. And Angel could have simply just had something to do with vital points, Sukuna is a thousand years old so it’s not unthinkable for him to know ways to put people to sleep without harm if they are off guard
Fair enough. I never called it an asspull btw, it was just something I noticed was left a bit vague when I read the chapter.
There's a creator on tiktok who makes interesting theories, and she said that Sukuna's cursed technique is the mastery and switching of elements. Like, when he fought Jogo, he activated Fuga and switched to the element of fire, that much is clear. But something interesting I'd never thought of is that Cleave and Dismantle are wind attacks.
What gives some credence to this theory is this panel, where we can clearly see various different elements in some of Sukuna's fingers (including earth, and ice)

Fair enough. I never called it an asspull btw, it was just something I noticed was left a bit vague when I read the chapter.
nah you're right, that cog explanation is a reach at best lmao
the whole switch was messy imo, the consequences of breaking the vow might come up later in their fight I would guess
from the beginning I had a feeling sakuna would try to utilise megumi's ct but body hopping was out of left field considering the trouble kenny needed to go through to do it. the explanation we got given afterwards leaves a lot to be desired but we move for the sake of the plot
nah you're right, that cog explanation is a reach at best lmao
the whole switch was messy imo, the consequences of breaking the vow might come up later in their fight I would guess
from the beginning I had a feeling sakuna would try to utilise megumi's ct but body hopping was out of left field considering the trouble kenny needed to go through to do it. the explanation we got given afterwards leaves a lot to be desired but we move for the sake of the plot
This is the universal belief, things don’t have to be spoonfed. Yuji hasn’t wanted to be alive for awhile and Sukuna believe it meant that alluded to him not including himself in the binding vow. He figured it was all down to interpretation which is why he called Yuji an idiot. Why does it need to be spelled out even further? Lol
This is the universal belief, things don’t have to be spoonfed. Yuji hasn’t wanted to be alive for awhile and Sukuna believe it meant that alluded to him not including himself in the binding vow. He figured it was all down to interpretation which is why he called Yuji an idiot. Why does it need to be spelled out even further? Lol
this contradicts kenjaku's explanation to mahito about trying to break his vow with mechamura. and that cog and suicide stuff happened way after the binding vow. you can think it all ties in nicely but it doesn't. and if this was so apparent tell me why nobody theorised the body switch with megumi was feasible before it actually happened? because ppl thought it wouldn't be possible. and please stop doing this thing where you think we aren't smart enough to draw inferences from the material, that's cringe
Semi-related but Sukuna said the vow was not to hurt or kill anyone. And then he cut off Itadori's finger and said "that vow didn't include Itadori himself" but that never made sense to me. Because "hurt no one" by definition includes EVERYONE. Idk, that part was kind of iffy imo.
You have to take into account when it comes to the character, is such a good plot twist because it was Yuji's belief and principles that created that void, it makes so much sense that he wouldnt include himself because ever since the start he tries to sacrifice himself at every chance he gets
You have to take into account when it comes to the character, is such a good plot twist because it was Yuji's belief and principles that created that void, it makes so much sense that he wouldnt include himself because ever since the start he tries to sacrifice himself at every chance he gets
Tbf I think it was bullshit too and couldve been delivered more satisfying. However it was never Yuji that brought up the binding vow and the condition in the first place. Ngl I thought until the enchain thing happened that the condition not to hurt or kill anyone was never part of the deal in the first place. Was kinda suprised that Sukuna mentioned it.


this contradicts kenjaku's explanation to mahito about trying to break his vow with mechamura. and that cog and suicide stuff happened way after the binding vow. you can think it all ties in nicely but it doesn't. and if this was so apparent tell me why nobody theorised the body switch with megumi was feasible before it actually happened? because ppl thought it wouldn't be possible. and please stop doing this thing where you think we aren't smart enough to draw inferences from the material, that's cringe
Honestly its a bit funny because I think people didnt see the body swapping coming. because 99% of jjk theories are about Gojo being Buddha
There was actually a huge hint in chapter 55 when the death paintings were brought up for the first time.

Also besides all that I dont think many people ever expected Yuji to lose Sukuna because that was literally his *role*. Its what seemingly made him the protagonist of the story, gave him his powers and also kinda made him special. Before it happened it would seem as strange to people as if the nine tales was swapped to Sasuke.
this contradicts kenjaku's explanation to mahito about trying to break his vow with mechamura. and that cog and suicide stuff happened way after the binding vow. you can think it all ties in nicely but it doesn't. and if this was so apparent tell me why nobody theorised the body switch with megumi was feasible before it actually happened? because ppl thought it wouldn't be possible. and please stop doing this thing where you think we aren't smart enough to draw inferences from the material, that's cringe
The thing is Sukuna didn’t break his vow though, he stuck to what he and Yuji agreed. Literally Sukuna says the boy is an idiot for not including himself in the binding vow. Yuji even before the binding vow was made was deprecating. He would just allow himself to die to save Megumi.
You have to take into account when it comes to the character, is such a good plot twist because it was Yuji's belief and principles that created that void, it makes so much sense that he wouldnt include himself because ever since the start he tries to sacrifice himself at every chance he gets
Agreed on all this.
this contradicts kenjaku's explanation to mahito about trying to break his vow with mechamura. and that cog and suicide stuff happened way after the binding vow. you can think it all ties in nicely but it doesn't. and if this was so apparent tell me why nobody theorised the body switch with megumi was feasible before it actually happened? because ppl thought it wouldn't be possible. and please stop doing this thing where you think we aren't smart enough to draw inferences from the material, that's cringe
Are we rewriting history now? A BIG amount of people made theories about the body swap, it was barely a question about when its going to happen, funny enough the fact that it happened at the most random moment was, again, the thing that made it so good, like the whole execution and end of that chapter is generational 
I understand some nitpicks or criticism about the story that some people have but the swap and how it happened aint one of them
Are we rewriting history now? A BIG amount of people made theories about the body swap, it was barely a question about when its going to happen, funny enough the fact that it happened at the most random moment was, again, the thing that made it so good, like the whole execution and end of that chapter is generational 
I understand some nitpicks or criticism about the story that some people have but the swap and how it happened aint one of them
People trying to call every part of the story an asspull
It is already explained that switching bodies nulls binding vows first when Kenjaku did it. Plus how is feeding harming someone? The asspull word is played out
He did not feed megumi that finger he forcefully opened his mouth and shoved it in there's literally a grip sound effect when he does it
Are we rewriting history now? A BIG amount of people made theories about the body swap, it was barely a question about when its going to happen, funny enough the fact that it happened at the most random moment was, again, the thing that made it so good, like the whole execution and end of that chapter is generational 
I understand some nitpicks or criticism about the story that some people have but the swap and how it happened aint one of them
Like Kenig said I didn’t see much theories about the actual swap happening but I did see theories about him utilising Megumi’s CT. I’m not too fussed about it tbh but just saying people who have some reservations about it are right in doing so
People trying to call every part of the story an asspull
It’s not an asspull but using semantics/trying to say the wording of the vow is ambiguous when it isn’t is a crap explanation
This isn’t contract law bro
I expect the consequences of breaking the vow will unfold during Sukuna’s downfall
but I don’t want to come off as nitpicking, I understand it needed to happen to get to where we are. Letting Gege cook 👍🏽
It’s not an asspull but using semantics/trying to say the wording of the vow is ambiguous when it isn’t is a crap explanation
This isn’t contract law bro
I expect the consequences of breaking the vow will unfold during Sukuna’s downfall
The thing is he might have broken the vow but he is currently coded as Megumi. I think the moment he will be split from Megumi and Yuji will simultaneously value his life again we for the first time ever are going to see the punishment of breaking a vow. It has been teased for some time that it can lead to incredible consequences and if it happens imo its gonna be at the very end of all this
Just my theory tho
This is from ch212 and we know black boxes in the manga are used to symbolize curses.
He mightve jinxed his own binding vow with this

Sidenote just the same chapter
this mfer Sukuna knows how important it is for Yuji to have a role in the story out of guilt and the original curse from his grandpa. Cmon this is awesome writing. Gege so underrated. Sure on the surface its a stupid little action manga but come on you gotta give it to the guy he a poet sometimes fr

