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    First Avenger was so earnest and had Joe Johnston’s style all over it. Even the first Thor as mediocre as it ended being was bleeding with Kenneth Branaugh’s style. f*** happened to Marvel?

  • Mar 26, 2021
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    Fulci Burnett

    First Avenger was so earnest and had Joe Johnston’s style all over it. Even the first Thor as mediocre as it ended being was bleeding with Kenneth Branaugh’s style. f*** happened to Marvel?

    They got rid of Branaghs wannabe Olivier ass thankfully and let Taika imprint his mythological frescos and kiwi charm on the franchise

  • Mar 26, 2021
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    Elric

    Because they are lost causes and I know you like some mcu so I'm confused why you always gotta bring them up in a negative way. Not that serious obv but so much relentless mcu shade got me feeling like the devil's advocate. It's like your one iconic letterboxd review about how something is considered so overrated that it might as well be underrated.

    Not defending the mega monopolies, already said I don't support Disney crushing small cinemas and s*** but I've been reading marvel (and a little DC) my whole life so

    Well I’ll watch Wandavision with an open mind just for you man. Marvel can make some fun stuff. Just felt really burnt out after Endgame and felt that a lot of the criticism directed at Snyder and even guys like Verbinski is that their blockbusters don’t follow that format and indulge in weird styles and tones so of course I’m gonna compare them to what they’re criticized for not doing. It’s hard not to bring up Marvel when talking about the Snyder Cut. There was an article written called why Marvel killed auteur theory and why that’s a good thing, it’s relevant to this because this is a blockbuster directly being marketed by it being a directors visions whether that vision works for you or not.

  • Mar 26, 2021
    Elric

    Understood and disagreed

    Totally fair

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    Elric

    They got rid of Branaghs wannabe Olivier ass thankfully and let Taika imprint his mythological frescos and kiwi charm on the franchise

    I’ll agree with you on this one. First Thor is not good imo.

  • Mar 26, 2021
    Fella

    Well I’ll watch Wandavision with an open mind just for you man. Marvel can make some fun stuff. Just felt really burnt out after Endgame and felt that a lot of the criticism directed at Snyder and even guys like Verbinski is that their blockbusters don’t follow that format and indulge in weird styles and tones so of course I’m gonna compare them to what they’re criticized for not doing. It’s hard not to bring up Marvel when talking about the Snyder Cut. There was an article written called why Marvel killed auteur theory and why that’s a good thing, it’s relevant to this because this is a blockbuster directly being marketed by it being a directors visions whether that vision works for you or not.

    it's only being marketed as a directors vision because of how poorly received JL was, and they have to separate the versions. Also, fans have been calling it that since 2017...

  • Mar 26, 2021
    Fella

    I’ll agree with you on this one. First Thor is not good imo.

    never fallen asleep to a movie more times than I have to Dark World

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    Elric

    They got rid of Branaghs wannabe Olivier ass thankfully and let Taika imprint his mythological frescos and kiwi charm on the franchise

    I liked the scenes in Asgard lol movies falls off the deep end once it stops being a Shakespearian sci-fi fantasy and just becomes a generic blockbuster that’s ashamed of being a comic book movie.

    Some of Thor’s earth interactions are funny tho.

  • Mar 26, 2021
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    Fella

    Well I’ll watch Wandavision with an open mind just for you man. Marvel can make some fun stuff. Just felt really burnt out after Endgame and felt that a lot of the criticism directed at Snyder and even guys like Verbinski is that their blockbusters don’t follow that format and indulge in weird styles and tones so of course I’m gonna compare them to what they’re criticized for not doing. It’s hard not to bring up Marvel when talking about the Snyder Cut. There was an article written called why Marvel killed auteur theory and why that’s a good thing, it’s relevant to this because this is a blockbuster directly being marketed by it being a directors visions whether that vision works for you or not.

    Endgame was almost 2 years ago zero content from marvel between that and WV and people still burned out? Felt like a drought.

    I dunno fam I heard way more complaints about other blockbusters (including DC) trying to copy the MCU formula, not sure how you heard the opposite. And Chloe Zhao about to kill off the theory that marvel killed off the auteur theory.

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    Fulci Burnett

    I liked the scenes in Asgard lol movies falls off the deep end once it stops being a Shakespearian sci-fi fantasy and just becomes a generic blockbuster that’s ashamed of being a comic book movie.

    Some of Thor’s earth interactions are funny tho.

    They are. Its not bad but it definitely didnt achieve any of the dramatic heft or gravitas it was going for in the Shakespearean segments (Hemsworth wasn't ready and the script was too thin) so I think Taika was wise to shift it like he did.

  • Mar 26, 2021
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    Elric

    Endgame was almost 2 years ago zero content from marvel between that and WV and people still burned out? Felt like a drought.

    I dunno fam I heard way more complaints about other blockbusters (including DC) trying to copy the MCU formula, not sure how you heard the opposite. And Chloe Zhao about to kill off the theory that marvel killed off the auteur theory.

    Zero content between Endgame and Wandavision? Lol the Spiderman sequel came out in between and they announced mad stuff in between.

    Also what movie is Chloe doing. Eternals? Cuz I'm actually interested in that

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  • Antidote
    https://twitter.com/DiscussingFilm/status/1375241577174601729

  • Mar 26, 2021
    6geW
    https://twitter.com/fandomwire/status/1374880381204324356

    I'm f***ing upset

  • Mar 26, 2021

    If eternals breaks aways from the marvel formula which I highly doubt it will it really doesn’t make any of the criticisms about the marvel as a whole invalid.

    also every two years people say marvel is about to drop something that completely breaks away from the formula and reinvents the genre but in the end it’s always something that’s only slightly different from what they’re known for.

    Critics & fan boys did it with Winter Soldier, Guardians (which I like but was initially underwhelmed due to the massive hype), Black Panther and Infinity War. Hell, people thought Ant Man would be different just because it was labeled a heist film.

  • Mar 26, 2021
    6geW
    https://twitter.com/fandomwire/status/1374880381204324356

    Wb gotta go mane

  • Mar 26, 2021
    SegaDreamFlash

    Zero content between Endgame and Wandavision? Lol the Spiderman sequel came out in between and they announced mad stuff in between.

    Also what movie is Chloe doing. Eternals? Cuz I'm actually interested in that

    You right I meant Far From Home not Endgame. Still year and a half drought. Announcing is not releasing... made the drought worse if anything.

    Yeah she's doing Eternals and went to Fiege with her own pitch which included very minimal green-screen use and alot of outdoor shooting

  • Mar 26, 2021
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    Fulci Burnett

    First Avenger was so earnest and had Joe Johnston’s style all over it. Even the first Thor as mediocre as it ended being was bleeding with Kenneth Branaugh’s style. f*** happened to Marvel?

    to be fair, while a bulk of their s*** is soulless, I can atleast see the styles of Shane Black, James Gunn and Taiki Waititi in their respective movies

    But the thing is even with First Avenger or those earlier marvel movies, it was pretty clear they were being restricted in terms of what they were establishing.

    You look at a film like Snyder's Justice League and you literally see Snyder making the kind of huge risks not just with his style and with specific scenes, but with the literal world being established, and no director in the MCU would ever have this level of freedom with Feige running s***

  • Mar 26, 2021
    Rosebud

    to be fair, while a bulk of their s*** is soulless, I can atleast see the styles of Shane Black, James Gunn and Taiki Waititi in their respective movies

    But the thing is even with First Avenger or those earlier marvel movies, it was pretty clear they were being restricted in terms of what they were establishing.

    You look at a film like Snyder's Justice League and you literally see Snyder making the kind of huge risks not just with his style and with specific scenes, but with the literal world being established, and no director in the MCU would ever have this level of freedom with Feige running s***

    Marvel films are the iPhones of cinema.

  • Mar 26, 2021
    Rosebud

    to be fair, while a bulk of their s*** is soulless, I can atleast see the styles of Shane Black, James Gunn and Taiki Waititi in their respective movies

    But the thing is even with First Avenger or those earlier marvel movies, it was pretty clear they were being restricted in terms of what they were establishing.

    You look at a film like Snyder's Justice League and you literally see Snyder making the kind of huge risks not just with his style and with specific scenes, but with the literal world being established, and no director in the MCU would ever have this level of freedom with Feige running s***

    Have you heard the tragedy of Darth Perlmutter? Even fiege was being restricted until 2016. Wasn't allowed black or women leads or general creativity.

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    Still think Edgar Wright’s Ant Man could’ve perfectly fit into the MCU without the forced cinematic universe building. Feige could’ve easily slapped on a lazy post credit scene tying it to the rest of the MCU like he did with Iron Man and The Incredible Hulk.

  • Mar 26, 2021
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    Fulci Burnett

    Still think Edgar Wright’s Ant Man could’ve perfectly fit into the MCU without the forced cinematic universe building. Feige could’ve easily slapped on a lazy post credit scene tying it to the rest of the MCU like he did with Iron Man and The Incredible Hulk.

    I'm sorry but every DC except Shazam has had "forced" world building hasnt it? Felt like the whole last hour of Snyder cut was setting up more snyderverse that isn't even cooking

    And I don't think it's forced when either brand does it since the comics have been doing it for half a century. Endgame was just Altman through a comic lens.

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    I still can’t get over them firing Edgar Wright and then hiring the guy who directed Yes Man to be a literal yes man. lol